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hello all, and a happy saturday to everyone. whew, what a long day it's been. it doesn't help that it's about a trillion degrees here so the humidity seems to make the time crawl. and last nite miss thang was up yet again with a fever, but this time only 102 so it wasn't too bad. so i'm exhausted again, can't shake this silly virus i've got. BUT it's not that bad, i shouldn't complain.

had fun with my daughters today (step daughter was over). we made peanut butter cookies for their daddy for father's day. it's his favorite! i made a small batch for my dad as well. and we had tacos for dinner. yummmm.

anyway hope you all have wonderful days tomorrow with the men in your life! happy father's day to all your husbands....

ps ANGELA, since we know tomorrow is Dayton Faith's "official" party, we are NOT going to let you get away without sending pictures! have fun!
j-mo mama
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 19:04:55 (EDT)
Hey SEA, yeah I would like the female if possible. I can't email you right now, just have time for a short post. Thanks I will get in touch with you tonight.

Thanks again!
Wendy
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 15:33:20 (EDT)
Wendy~ We have three available males and one available female pup. If you arestill interested in one of our pups, let me know, I can hold one for you for a few weeks! :-)
SEA
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 14:40:01 (EDT)
Angela I think I have you beat by 4 loads today. I usually do my laundry on Weds and Saturday, but I missed it this week so now it all has to be done today. Fancipants is going to grandmas for a week this afternoon. (Each of the kids get to spend one week by themselves up there with gma)I'm busy getting all of that together. It is definitely going to be a chore day, then the bunk bed needs to be sanded down. Well, Dh will handle that. :0) My goal is to have the furniture and stencilling done by the time she gets home but with school 4 nights this week, that may be a bit unrealistic.

About Michael Moore. Well, hate to say it folks, but the same freedom of speech we have, is also the freedom of speech that he has. Freedom of speech unfortunately does not mean the freedom to HEAR only what we want. Gotta take the good with bad stuff I suppose. I don't agree with him be sneaky tho, not cool. :/ Especially trying to make the few look like the many. It is very skewed, and for someone who is so bent on informing the public on the "reality" of the war, it would seem to be that he idd just the opposite. My opinion, only. 9/11 was what 9/11 was. A horrific act of mass terrorism. Trying to color it to be something else, whoever is doing it, is wrong. It never ceases to literally amaze me, how little regard these people have to the human being. Karma catches up with people like that.

Anyhoo, I read that the kidnappers, whose organization Saudi authorities believe were responsible for Berg's death as well, were killed in some sort of shootout with Saudi police. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Cherokee
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 12:35:13 (EDT)
Opps! That was suppoz to read "sex ACT"!!

Love that poem Holly!
LH
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 11:09:31 (EDT)
Hi Everyone,
Hope everybody is having a good weekend.
I guess my cleaning tip would be..to clean the inside of my microwave I spray a paper towel with Fantastic and throw it in the MW for about a minute on high...Then I just wipe it down and it gets rid of any build up and etc.

All of these cleaning tips are great!
We are going to a post wedding party today for friends of ours, they were married last weekend in Maine,but DH thought it was too far to travel. ( I even had it set up for Baby Ryan to spend the night at my friends home ) Oh Well! hopefully today will be fun..We are bringing Ryan with us.

Barb~ Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.

LH~ Hope your father recovers soon.

Sea~ Congrats on your new puppies! They are too cute!

TC Everyone,
Marie
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 11:08:29 (EDT)
Thanks Kerri, Holly and SEA...Also Congrats Margarita!!

"....and a Pres who doesn't put his personal needs or sexual needs ahead of his country." Hehe!! Good one Wendy! Clintoon defantely would have been too busy trying to figure out where his next {insert sex ct of your choice!} was coming from to ever really get serious bout anything!

TC all! Getting ready for my family get together tomorrow...busy day today!


LH
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 11:06:55 (EDT)
THE LITTLE CHAP WHO FOLLOWS ME

A careful man I ought to be,
A little fellow follows me,
I do not dare to go astray,
For fear he'll go the same way.

I cannot once escape his eyes,
Whate'er he sees me do he tries,
Like me he says he's going to be,
The little chap who follows me.

He thinks that I am good and fine,
Believes in every word of mine,
The base in me he must not see,
The little chap who follows me.

I must remember as I go,
Through summer's fun and winter's snow,
In building for the years to be
The little chap who follows me.
Holly
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 11:00:16 (EDT)
Good morning all! My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone.
Let's see a cleaning my favorite cleaning tip would have to be if you have baked on food on your dishes, when you soak it put a used fabric softner sheet in it, the softner will loosen the food and make it a cinch to clean.
Hope everyone has a nice weekend. We are going to go horseback riding and fishing later today. And tomorrow we are going to have a cook out with my family. Sounds great. Kiddos are at the library with Mamaw right now, will be back soon so I need to get ready to go. TTFN.
Holly
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 10:40:01 (EDT)
Kerri Nope missed it on purpose since I saw the interview with him on Dateline w/ Matt Lauer. He is such an *&^!!! You know he says that he supports our troops, as does the rest of Hollywood,(eye roll inserted here) but when they make movies with type of content they are NOT supporting them at all. Plus the footage they have of some of the soldiers saying how they felt about the war? Well they thought they were talking with cameras off, in confidence. Some even had hidden cameras so they would really get those over there, perspectives. Yeah I sure like how Mr. Moore gets his footage! By lying to these soldiers, sneaking cameras in places, and showing things ENTIRELY one sided. You know, he would have NOTHING to say if Clinton was in office still and in this war. Nope nada. The only reason that Pres Bush is getting so much flak is because his Dad had a war, and the Bush family was successful twice!! Yeah Moore is a moron. LOL and he said that he made this movie with no political agenda. LMAO but he wants this movie to impact the voting in Nov so that Kerry will become pres. Yep I so want THAT guy in office. Can't even make up his mind what he stands for. I guess where ever the money is coming from, he will stand for whatever they want him to stand for. Hey you have to hand it to Bush. He stands up for what he believes is right and will NOT say that he did wrong nor apologize for his actions. He is one of the Strongest Pres we have had, not to mention Reagan. Seriously, Reagan stood for what he believed and never backed down and he served 8 great years and made a HUGE difference. I know that Bush, if elected again, will do the same. I think we can see a many more great things from him. I like a Pres who doesn't waver and a Pres who doesn't put his personal needs or sexual needs ahead of his country.


Wendy
email: soundoffboard@hotmail.com
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 10:23:45 (EDT)
Margarita~ You did win! :-) I'm excited to hear the new name! I'll post a pic on the site in a day or two with all of the pup's faces, then you can pick one to name. There aren't any black ones. 5 chocolates and
4 yellows. Only 3 females!

Angela~ 6 loads of laundry? Do you have to do it every day? I try to do at least one load a day. If I don't, by the weekend, we have a pile as tall as my oldest son! My 2 year old likes to change shirts about 5 times a day, too. Ugh!

I see a lot of sad things have been going on...My heart goes out to anyone in a tough situation right now.


SEA
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 10:19:46 (EDT)
LH-I am so sorry about your father. I must have missed that post. I pray he will be ok...
Did you all see Letterman last night...Michael Moore was on there bashing the president. He really does seem like a jerk!
Kerri
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 09:51:51 (EDT)
I am up yet again tonight, so this time, I'm staying up!:-) Just wanted to catch up since I was MIA allday...We had a nice family night out and went to the Multi-Cultural Festival in the park here! Had some great "eats" and the daughter and I bought some beautiful turquoise jewelry and purses from the venders booths set up there!

CONGRATS SEA on the new puppies!! They are adorable and I would have trouble letting them go!

Barb, so sorry to hear of your friends passing and my sympathies go out to the family. I pray that they find a cure for that horrible disease someday soon!

Thanks to all who kept my Dad in their prayers! We think he might have suffered a stroke, but won't know much until doctor calls back on Monday. He was also put on something called "Lexapro" because he just hasn't been "himself" lately and very depressed..I pray it works and he starts to feel better soon!

Wendy, I enjoyed your post and am angered by all the finger pointing being directed at President Bush! I also cannot STAND Michael Moore! The man is an IDIOT! Looks like ol' Richard Gere is at it again as well...when will these damn movie stars learn to stay out of politics and do their own damn jobs?! GRrrRr!!

Have a great Saturday! TC!
LH
Saturday, June 19, 2004 at 04:39:34 (EDT)
Hi Ladies. Just wanted to update those of you who have asked about Fatima lately. She and I are both off contract now and won't return to work until the first week in August. I know Fatima doesn't get on the computer much, but I'll be sure to let her know she is missed.
Misty
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 23:48:46 (EDT)
I also did want to say that NO ONE deserves being killed. I think that the situation for both men could have been prevented. It saddens me that there are still soooo many men and women over there that need to be here.

My brother is over there,

God Bless you LCPL Gio!! I love you and miss you. I can't wait til you come home! SEMPER FI!!! Let that ring those the hills!! Make them hear it! Tell Ryan Z Hooyaa!!!
24thMEU New River NC!!!!!!
Wendy
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 23:47:10 (EDT)
The whole mess with the beheading of Paul, is sick. I also hate the fact that the father of Nicholas Berg has that sign in front of his house. What an idiot! His son was told to leave then didn't, then was captured and killed. Yeah that was the Pres fault. Sure, that his son wanted to stay and rake in the money. And I am glad that the US did not negotiate for his release at all. That is our policy. These terrorists are trying to drive a wedge between the Saudi's and the US. They want the US to leave so they can freely attack Saudi Arabia. Sick sick sick. Oh and Don't get me even started on that new Micheal Moore movie Farenhiet 9/11. What crap. He is so biased, so is the movie, and its totally amazing to me how this man ABUSES his freedom of speech right. It is because of this Pres that more attacks have not taken place, and because of him that our freedoms will still stand.He is one of those people that I would love see and try and live in Iraq or go over there and actually DO something about the problems he believes we have. OH yeah and he says that he had tape of the prison abuse scandal even before the press released what they had. YEAH WHATEVER. He is an awful man. Him and all his star followings, Tim Robbins, Sean Penn, who really don't know ANYTHING about politics just know that they hate ANY Republican President. You know what is funny? They have all their Luxury and fame and fortune because this country allows it. And protect it. Like at the Oscars they were afraid that Terrorists were gong to hit the building or something. You know what? They, the gov, the homeland security, should have said oh well. Since they, Hollywood, oppose what ever the gov does anyway. I think they should live like us. We don't get protection like that going to Disneyland or the Sears Tower, or LAX, I mean those have been said to be creditable targets. Us, we don't have extra security making sure we survive. Nope the stars have money and America wouldn't be America without its stars. At least that is what Hollywood says. UUUUUUUURRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH
This whole thing upsets me terribly. I don't care how famous you are, NO ONE tells me that their life, because they are rich, or famous, is more important than my or more importantly my children's lives.


Ok my vent is done. I had to get this out. Sorry! I am just Sounding off on this issue since we were talking about it today.
Wendy
email: soundoffboard@hotmail.com
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 23:29:24 (EDT)
Hey all! I am cleaning my bootie off getting ready for Sunday. I've got all of the bedrooms done, as well the the children's playroom, the family room, and six loads of laundry(so, I'm caught up kind of.) Tomorrow I have the kitchen and bathroom left, and some shopping. Just taking a break from cleaning, then I need to spend some time with DD1...she wants me to watch the Princess Diaries with her. She's in the shower now, then time to get into our *comfies*, pop some popcorn, and have us a little bit of girl time....I cannot think of anything else I would rather do on a Friday night. =) Have a great weekend everyone.

Saraj~The puppies are CUTE little bubba's.!
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 23:03:33 (EDT)
Barb - so sorry about your friend. I am glad that her ordeal is over now, and that she can rest. I will keep her family in my thoughts and prayers.

SEA - well how the heck did I manage that? LOL I never win anything, and I h avent' even come up with an official name for Samson yet!! You will have to let me know for sure if I win, and then I will start thinking. BTW - are there any black ones? I couldn't tell if the dark one on the far left was brown or black. How many females/males?
Gotta run - fil is here and he and dh just came back in from playing horseshoes.

Margarita
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 22:17:36 (EDT)
Happy Friday all!

Well, we have had a fun past two days. Yesterday we went to a formal graduation ball at the Field Museum. They did a wonderful job with the decorations and we had "free" run of the place! And today we made it a "family" day and went aboard a luxury sea cruiser for lunch called the "Odyssey" at Navy Pier. I recommend it if you are ever in Chicago. Our two year old just loved dancing to the band!
Well, must go start dinner and then we are off to ice skating! :)

Angela-I took your advice and did a tie clip for dh's graduation gift. I also did a briefcase, one that can hold a laptop...he better like it! Thanks for your help with the suggestions! No luck however shopping at the Exchange for these.

Barb-Sympathy thoughts go out to your husbands friend/wife. It is hard to lose someone you love. Our friend here whose wife committed suicide is just getting back...although I don't know how someone so young goes on...

JMO-so happy to hear about your mom and also baby Owen. I am happy that mommy gets to hold him. Any discharge dates set?

Saraj-your puppies are cute!
Kerri
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 18:18:38 (EDT)
Below were the guesses of everyone who wanted to play! :-) Sooo, um...who was the closest? (looks like Margarita is the closest!)
-------------------------


I'll guess 9...all lighter butterscotch color, except for one little dark guy(who will be the cute runt of the litter too.)
angela

I'll guess 11 puppies...6 yellows and five chocolates
(my guess)


I will guess 9 pups, and 5 blondies, and 4 choc ones, 6 females, 3 males.
Margarita

My guess for Nala - six pups, different shades of tan, this Friday.
Barb


i'm thinking Nala will have 8 pups. 5 boys, 3 girls. 3 chocolate, 4 light brown and 1 black. the big day will be a week from today!
j-mo mama

Im guessing 7 pups, 4 boys, 3 girls. All golden ( or butterskotch ), and one black. I say they are here on Thursday.
Stats:
Lyne

SEA
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 17:52:27 (EDT)
I agree, I understand that these contractors are making a great living in the Middle East right now. But I just cannot understand why if they were warned time and time again to leave, (the US even offered to pay their way)why would they stay?? Nicholas Berg's father posted signs in his front yard. He blames President Bush for his son's death. His son was not military, he was a communications expert setting up towers or something. They were warned. Berg himself was even being threatened personally. My goodness...that is not very smart. Money.
Paul Johnson had a love reportedly of the Arabian culture and was reading the Koran (spelling?). He has been working for Lockheed Martin over there for many years, before all of this nonsense. (Although I understand there has always been some sort of unrest over there). According to people he worked with and his family, he showed great respect and reverence for them. It's just sad. Honestly, I don't believe for one minute, that had any prisoners been released they would have let him go. They would have killed him anyway. People like Al-Queada are not able to reason without blood. Ever.
Cherokee
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 17:05:54 (EDT)
http://www.geocities.com/nalaspups1/

See the new pups here! :-)
SEA
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 16:53:03 (EDT)
jo mo-mama :) That is wonderful your mom is 3 yrs cancer free. Our Relay for Life is this weekend, I will be thinking of your mom, Cherokee and all of the other Cancer survivors, and of course, the ones that also WON, having to leave this earth to do so. Our neighbor, and good friend, has breast cancer. It has most recently spread to her spine, hips, and chest. Things are not looking good for her, but she is making the most of out her life. She is really a wonderful person.
Lyne
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 15:51:52 (EDT)
Happy Friday girls :)
Barb.. thoughts and prayers are with you ((hugs))
saraj.. yeah for the puppies!
On the American that was beheaded..again. WHY on earth are these people over there. Im not saying they deserve this, NOONE does, but for God sakes, how STUPID can they be??? They have been told and told and told to leave, yet they stay and when something happens, its blasted all over the media. I believe it wouldnt have mattered what or how many hostages were freed, if any, they would have killed this man anyway. They are animals, with no regard to human life, WO WHY GO THERE and take that risk??? Our neighbor is a Firefighter, and he was offered 150,000 non tax money to go over there for one year. He declined. He has a wife and 2 sons. Why take that risk?? I feel very sorry for that mans family. What a terrible PREVENTABLE tragedy!
Have a great weekend ladies!
Lyne
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 15:43:54 (EDT)
I know what you’re saying, LH, but part of me wants to strangle any American who’s over there. We know that these groups hate us… no job is worth that danger. Yes, it sucks, but we may have to just stay away from that part of the world until things cool down.

More than anything I feel awful for that man's family.

Barb
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 15:21:44 (EDT)
You got that right! ANIMALS!!! I am so angry right now..I cannot believe this has been allowed to happen AGAIN! They need to round up all these inhuman monsters who are doing this and bring them here to the US to be held accountable!
The story is here:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20040618/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_kidnapped_american
LH
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 15:00:04 (EDT)
hi ladies!

BARB, i'm really sorry to hear about your friend passing. it's not going to be an easy road for the husband and the little 5 year old, but with support and love from family and friends, they will get through it.

i'm still not well, in fact today i feel really lousy. luckily my mom took my daughter for a little while and let me get some rest, since i was up with her and her fever again last nite. i'm praying tonite will be better! we both need a really good nite's sleep to help us get over whatever it is we've got!

on a brighter note, today is a special day for my family. today marks my mom's 3rd anniversary of being cancer free. we're not having an official celebration, but in my heart it is a real reason to celebrate!

anyway hope you all enjoy the rest of your day.

has anyone heard from Fatima?
j-mo mama
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 14:36:28 (EDT)
CNN has verified the death, by beheading, of Paul Johnson. Honestly, I don't think this man stood a chance of getting out of his captivity alive in the first place. The demands of his captors...All Westerners leave the Arab Peninsula, and the freeing of all Al Quaeda prisoners...were just too unreasonable for even these phychos to believe the demands would be met. Plus, Saudi Arabia and America have always had the policy of NO negotiating with terrorists. These people act and live like animals.
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 14:31:36 (EDT)
Barb/Melissa~Can you imagine changing a baby's *dirty* when WE were babies? No disposable diapers(at least when I was born) and no Pamper's Wet Wipes. Ugh...The first time my oldest daughter stayed for a weekend with my parents when she was a baby, my dad *took the plunge* and decided to change her diaper. Dad is from a different generation, and I remember he would give the babies bottles every now and then, but for the most part men of that generation left childcare up to the mother. Anyway, my dad decides he is going to change our then 4 month old daughter's diaper....and had NO idea how disposable diapers were supposed to work. Mom said it was quite a sight, but God love him, he finally got that baby diapered! Mom said the fact that Maranda was such a patient, well humored baby really helped too!
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 14:03:00 (EDT)
Bad news! Just heard on the radio that the US hostage, Paul Johnson has been killed (beheaded)...sure hope this is not true, but given the recent happenings, probably is...My heart goes out to his family...such awful news!
LH
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 13:37:43 (EDT)
Thanks for all the well-wishes, everyone. The funeral is Sunday, and since my father-in-law is visiting, he’ll watch Izzy so both my hubby and I will be able to go.

Ha, Melissa, yes, I use wipes on my daughter’s bum.

Barb
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 13:06:31 (EDT)
Angela~ I do the same thing with the Clorox Wipes in the bathroom. But I use paper towels and the citrus 409 on the kitchen counters and the table.

Barb~ I am sure that most do wash hands after baby changes. But what I was wondering was if you used wipes to wipe the baby with since it didn't involve rinsing with water. LOL....it was really more of a joking sarcastic question. LOL - Plenty of good healing thoughts coming your way for your dh's friend and daughter.


Melissa
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 13:02:23 (EDT)
Barb~I don't use sponges either...eeuuww. I wipe off counters, stove, table, etc. with soapy water and a dishcloth, which gets changed everyday(I do know people who keep the same dishcloth at their kitchen sink for more than one day...yuck.) I also spray my *scrubby* pad with Lysol after I use it so it does not get stinky. I use Clorox Wipes in the bathroom too when everybody is done getting ready in the morning....it keeps everything cleaner inbetween weekend scrubbings.
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 12:58:20 (EDT)
SEA, I have a husky mutt (75 pounds) and an Australian cattle dog mutt (50 pounds). And since yesterday I have another Australian cattle dog in my house… we’re dog-sitting for our friends until Monday. The three of them are best friends because they’ve known each other since mine were puppies.

I think my Nala guess was that it would happen last week some time! Looks like I’m out, too!

Melissa, about hand sanitizers and baby wipes… yes, they’re in the same category for me. I always wash my hands after I change Isabelle’s diaper anyway, just because of the nature of the job, but we don’t ever use wipes as hand-cleaners while we’re out. I keep a washcloth in the diaper bag for big messes, or I just use a napkin. Someone mentioned the germs on sponges… I know! It’s wasteful, but I use paper towels for cleaning the stove, counters, etc.

Barb
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 12:51:14 (EDT)
Well...sounds like my guesses are a *bust* in the puppy pool! Oh well....don't forget to BREATHE Nala!=)
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 12:33:24 (EDT)
Nala is pushing again already!

Barb~ What kind of dogs do you have?
SEA
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 12:10:49 (EDT)
Anyway...he did excellent (not like in Chicago) ;-)

I'm so proud of him! The flyer is due out in August.

So, I've been too busy to post here...not sure when I'll return, but it looks like everyone is being generally nice. (good to see!)


Wendy~ If you are interested in seeing the pups colors and etc, email me and I can send you osme pics.
SEA
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 12:00:08 (EDT)
Has anyone ever gotten into one of those huge sumo suits and wrestled? OMG! Hubby and I went to watch an ameture fight night Wed. and they asked people in the audience if anyone wanted to participate..I said YEAH! It was awesome! I pinned the gal three times!

My 2 year old got an early call yesterday for print work. We went

ANOTHER PUPPY JUST CAME!

It's another yellow!
(ew, I'm tping with slime hands) LOL!
SEA
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:57:20 (EDT)
Cherokee~Jake has fantastic rhomboids.=0)Hee!Hee!....ignore me....something about that word *rhomboids* struck my giggle nerve. I have no idea why.
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:54:38 (EDT)
Hi Ladies!

I'm feeling like a zombie. Nala started labor at 3am and is still going strong! I slept a few hours..so far, we have 8 puppies with at LEAST 2 remaining to be born.
So far, we have four chocolates and four yellows. (and only 2 females!) Happily, my daughter has already fallen in love with a chocolate female, which we will keep! :-)

Site updates soon!
SEA
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:52:59 (EDT)
Barb -

Lots of good thoughts coming from here.

Ellyn
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:39:20 (EDT)
Barb~ I was sad to read your post this morning. I can't imagine losing my partner or how sad for a five year old to lose her mama. ~~Good Thoughts~~

Jen~Have you tried a warm shower and then reading before bed? I had bouts of sleeplessness for a while. When that didn't work, I popped a melatonin. ZZZZZ. ;) works great. Also, valarian root works well for that.

I am sore sore sore today. We did these repatterning exercises last night in my Movement/Body Mechanics class. It involves contracting your rhomboids (muscles between your shoulder blades)and holding it while moving your arms around and forward. The purpose is to lengthen those muscles (swimmers have great rhomboids). OUCH!


Cherokee
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 11:24:29 (EDT)
Barb~I will definitely send those thoughts to your husband's coworker, and the little one. To lose a young mother and wife is heartbreaking...I am glad though, that he was able to spend those last days at her side, and hopefully they were able to say all those things they wanted to say before she had to go.
angela
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 10:33:10 (EDT)
Good morning, everyone. You know the woman I told you about… my hubby’s co-worker’s wife who was fighting breast cancer? She died last night at home with her husband by her side. Please think healing thoughts for her husband and her 5-year-old that she left behind.

Barb
Friday, June 18, 2004 at 09:23:04 (EDT)
I have NOT posted on here since around noontime today! I have a life and things to do and I do not sit around on here allday and especially NOT to come on to cause trouble!

I have been at my parents most of the evening...my dad is very ill and I would like to ask for prayers for him as I have started a prayer chain on the other site I mod and everything helps.

Sorry if I have not yet replied to your new emails Melissa...please keep trying though as I am there more than I am here!

Jen, one Tylenol PM usually will knock me right out for the night! Here is a good site for some herbal options as well...I have a 'sleepy pillow" and they are wonderful!! http://floraleads.net/relaxation/

Tanya, did you receive my email today? I have a few questions so I will be sending you another!
TC all!
LH
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 23:26:33 (EDT)
I am signed in. I have that also but under a different name.
I am on so I will talk to you when you sign on!
Wendy
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 22:19:28 (EDT)
the babies chatroom
I dont know
let me email you
Jen
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 22:07:22 (EDT)
Well Jen I tried the alternative board but its not working for me, are you still signed in at the babies one?

Wendy
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 22:04:20 (EDT)
Wendy...
which chat room
Jen
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 21:58:13 (EDT)
Hey Jen I will meet you in the chat room if you want to chat?
Wendy
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 21:52:32 (EDT)
Jen~You know the best way to fall asleep? TRY, as hard as you can, to stay AWAKE! Seriously, make a concerted effort NOT to go to sleep...you will be out like a light within the hour. Sounds stupid, I know! It works though! I do that when I'm on call, otherwise I can't get to sleep at all(anticipating my beeper going off keeps me awake.)
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 21:46:13 (EDT)
Anyone around????


I am sooo tired..can not sleep.
I for some reason love to sit in front of this screen when I am over tired...makes NO sense.


Be back off and on.


Jen
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 21:19:27 (EDT)
LOL I forgot why I dislike painting so much!!
I have primered the whole room, painted the ceiling, and just finished painting wall number two. I am not sure I like the color now that it is on the walls but dd does, and that's good enough for me ;o). The pink is almost too pepto-bismol - it was supposed to be a little lighter than the color of Dora the Explorer's shirt. Maybe I will do the other two walls white... Now I have to paint her dresser white, too, because I dropped the roller on it while I was painting the ceiling.

I better get back to work - dd is being whiny and I want to be able to at least get the trim in the corner behind her bed all done so I can put her bed in place and have her in bed at about bedtime.

Seeya!
Margarita
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 20:51:57 (EDT)
LOL Jen~We live in the sticks too....of Iowa. Cell phone reception is not always very good here either. Also, if our computer at home runs at 26.4 K's, it is running pretty fast(old phone lines). =) I would not give up living out here for anything though.
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 20:18:49 (EDT)
Good Evening,

I hate the heat....HUMID....Makes me ILL.

Hope your all having a great day/night. I have been pretty busy today. Had my friend over for lunch. She brought her kids and we put the sprinkler on for the boys to run around outside.
DH and I just got new cell phones....he called me 11 times today...love the fella but 11 times...goodness. He made me talk to all his coworkers and prove we have better reception than any of them...you all have to understand..we live in the sticks of Massachusetts. Nobody has good reception...LOL

Anyway, kids last day of school is next week and I am straight out crazy busy. Last day of school things and DS1 is graduating onto Kindergarten..( Sorry I am not the best speller, and I saw someone get attacked for that earlier....I do apologize )

I am now off to do MAJOR laundry and try to get some other chores done.

Wishing you all well


Jen
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 19:50:08 (EDT)
LOL Jmo- ummm, you may have to twist my arm to visit your island!

Dh is home now, gotta run!

TTFN
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:49:39 (EDT)
hi ladies...

well it's soooo nice to have my darlin' back home. my daughter was just thrilled to see daddy, and of course he spoiled her (ok, and me!) rotten! he didn't do as well as he'd hoped in his tournament, but chalked it down to experience and is ready to kick some ass this weekend!

cherokee, oh no! don't go planning a girls weekend yet! i think my week in toronto (not to mention my huge expenditures!!) was my girls week for the year! i won't be able to jet off for a weekend any time soon. i would LOVE to go to arizona, but it's sooo far from here. i really dont see why you all just can't come here! lol!!! that would be fun tho......

anyway let me get back to dinner, nothing interesting tonight, just some irish sausages...mmmm...


j-mo mama
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:46:02 (EDT)
Melissa~ I just emailed a couple of links to you! The second one is the best.
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:43:20 (EDT)
Barb ~ LOL...you may find the wipes a little creepy then. What about baby wipes are those creepy? They don't use water. I like the hand sanitizer's and such.

I promise my bathroom is not nearly as clean as it sounds. We only have 1 bathroom in our house and I have to share it with dh! LOL
Melissa
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:42:37 (EDT)
I use the Clorox Clean ups too. They flush. Also, they are better than sponges, because you never get the germs out of sponges, you are really just kind of moving them around. Use the cleanups once - and throw 'em out. I like easy.
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:38:18 (EDT)
Wow, Melissa, that is REALLY clean! Tell me... if I find those liquid hand sanitizers creepy, will I also find those disposable wipes creepy? Are they sort of in the same category -- a cleaning tool that you don't need water to use? I'm a bit crazy about some things, and that's one of them... the last thing I want is to squirt some alcohol-y liquid on my hands to get them clean; just give me some plain ol' water and soap! But that's just me. Anyways, I'm leaving for the day, so I'll see your response tomorrow. Have a wonderful evening, everyone!

Barb
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:27:26 (EDT)
Hi all-

I don't know much about stem cell research to respond to the specific topic; however, since the question ask what do I think about this (Mrs. Reagan supporting stem cell research and Mrs. Bush opposing it)? I don't think anything in particular. The differing opinions of two women, both which happen to be republican, is given. Not everyone who votes in the same party is going to have the same faith, agree on everything, and have the same values.

So, I don't have an opinion towards either woman.


Shawanda
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:26:07 (EDT)
Barb, that's a good one. My favorite is that I keep the disposable Clorox wipes on the bathroom counter so when we get finished getting ready in the morning I wipe off the bathroom counter and sink...that way it stays relatively clean...although I still do the whole bathroom every weekend.
Melissa
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:14:13 (EDT)
I’d love to hear some cleaning tips! Anything that makes chores easier, the better! Here’s one that I do: every day when cleaning up the kitchen after dinner I use the wet paper towel that I was scrubbing the counter with to wipe up all the corners and edges of the floor. I have two dogs, so there’s ALWAYS hair in the corners, and this way it never gets TOO out of hand (otherwise I’d be mopping every day, and I don’t have time or energy for that!).

Barb
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 16:06:21 (EDT)
Cherokee ~ I am anxiously awaiting those links you said you would send to me. I am sure you are busy...but when you get a second I would greatly appreciate it.
Melissa
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:54:23 (EDT)
ENOUGH LADIES!!!! ENOUGH!
If you do not have anything nice to say about someone or TO someone then find another topic to talk about. If you feel someone has attacked you or your character please e-mail them, us or as hard as it is, ignore it. The only thing you do by coming back and trying to defend yourself is adding fuel to the fire. I personally know that is a very difficult thing to ask , however, it is the only thing that works. If everyone went by these rules-- then this board would be rid of the problem.

We do mind mind debates at the sound off board. However, we do NOT tolerate bashing other people or their character. AGREE TO DISAGREE!!! From now on-- If you call someone a name for ANY reason, if you post under annom names and bash others, if you attack a present or past member you WILL be put on a list that goes to the webmaster to be reviewed for being banned off the site. Period! End of Story! I am going to personally do everything I can to make sure that list gets taken care of on a WEEKLY basis!!!!

Consider this a fresh start to EVERYONE!!! Today--- it starts over.

My hope is to gain more access over the boards in the next several weeks and be able to delete offensive posts myself (instead of reporting them to the webmaster) so it will be done more quickly.

If you don’t care for someone because of the past--- IGNORE THEM!!!!!!!!!

If you feel threatened or attacked e-mail me immediately!!

Things to talk about………..

* The topic of the week
* Book club
* summer activities
* Great vacations spots
* cleaning tips
*your children

Tanya from IParenting
email: tanya@iParenting.com
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:46:17 (EDT)
Lurker~Probably because YOU came here to insult US, and cause trouble. We did not SEEK out YOU, or JESSE, or any of your little playmates. See the difference?

Sounds like HEAVEN Cherokee! NOW, I gotta run! I used my potty-break-before-the-staffing-time to post this! LOL! =)
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:41:08 (EDT)
{{eyeroll}}LH~for everyone's sake please get a grip already.

Well, I'll see the rest of you gals later. Little man is up from his nap and Madison is outside skimming the pool. We are going to swim until Dad gets home and then pick up the older boys at sports camp, then have an early light supper. I grilled turkey strips to add to a salad and it is chillin'. I was going to make meatloaf, but that seems so heavy on a hot day.

I have body mechanics in school night. It's amazing how much better my back feels since this class (I had some twinges here and there).

TTFN!
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:38:46 (EDT)
Once again Wendy is playing favorites.

Wendy why don't you repremand Angela and Cherokee here like you do other people? Why do you give them the pleasure of a personal e-mail? They cause just as much trouble here by egging on those that come here just to post.

This board will never change.

lurker
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:33:09 (EDT)
I think I might check out some rates. I still don't want to be away from Esai for more than a night/two. I can drive there...it's pretty close, but you all have to fly.


OHHHH GEEZZZ...I just thought of something! My parents have a time share they can't use this summer in Sedona! They gave it to Rob and I, but he can't get away from work...we could do this for close to FREE (except your airfare of course!!)
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:29:26 (EDT)
Well ladies....I have a meeting to go to. I will catch you all later.
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:27:38 (EDT)
Im in :) We are actually going to Vegas again in March. Not sure if we are going through Arizona this time tho. I would love to meet SOME of you :) *wink
Lyne
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:25:46 (EDT)
I've driven through Arizona a couple of times. I thought it was pretty, but I prefer living out here on my Midwestern Prairie. A spa-weekend sounds like HEAVEN!


angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:25:28 (EDT)
Oh...yeah Lyne. We should do this. It would be a lot of fun. I should check on some rates at different places...you in?
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:24:05 (EDT)
Wendy...Please tell me what I have said on here is so wrong? I was just trying to "Voice" my opinion. And now I am not very popular here.
I happen to think I have handled myself quite well, compared to others.
You can e-mail me too hun!
Jessie L
email: sexkitten@earthlink.net
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:24:03 (EDT)
I have been to Arizona, just for about 1 hour tho. Stopped on out way to Las Vegas, had a layover there. Very pretty. I wasnt there long enough to see anything, except for the airport! lol Im up for a vacation :)
Lyne
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:22:55 (EDT)
Anyhoo...they have a lot of specials during the summer. Because of the heat, they don't have high occupancy like they do in the winter. In the summer, it is around 85-90...much cooler than Phoenix. Anyway, it would be cool if we could have a girls weekend there. We should get several gals from the board to go. I bet Jmo would!
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:19:43 (EDT)
I am just plain jane gal....
laughing my butt off at the two of you getting soooo upset.



never claimed to be a rocket scientist
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:18:18 (EDT)
OK everyone listen up


THIS BOARD IS FOR DEBATE OR FRIENDLY CONVERSATIONS NOT ATTACKING. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THIS PERSON WHO POPS UP EVERY WEEK IS HERE ONLY TO CAUSE TROUBLE. PLEASE IGNORE THESE POSTS. THIS PERSONS POSTS ONLY CLUTTER AND HINDER THE FRIENDLY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE HAD THUS FAR. IT ALSO LOOKS AS THOUGH THIS PERSON IS POSTING UNDER QUITE A FEW NAMES. IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF THIS PERSON EMAIL TANYA AT Tanya@iparenting.com

THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE WILL GET THIS UNDER CONTROL YET AGAIN.

Jessie if you have a problem with this board I suggest you email me or Tanya. Please be an adult about this and do what I asked of you in the first place, to leave.

All the other personalities or anon names please leave also. We were having a fantastic week and it is a shame that you all had to ruin it.

Cherokee and Angela email me please.

IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE

They will go away
Wendy
email: soundoffboard@hotmail.com
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:17:53 (EDT)
Oh my ...hate is such strong word No Name. Shouldn't throw it around like. Not good for you.

Angela~no Sedona is in Arizona, northern Arizona actually. They have a lot of spas and a couple of nice mini-resorts there.
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:17:12 (EDT)
CAPITAL letters you dummy! Like I said, you are easy to identify by your poor grammar and spelling. BTW~LH is not *several people who hate me*! She is actually...nobody!
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:16:21 (EDT)
I think you are confused grasshopper. I don't think I said your husband left. I don't even think you are really female. LOL..not that matters..


Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:15:34 (EDT)
SEDONA ARIZONA.....BRILLIANT
GET OUT A MAP
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:15:08 (EDT)
Are you stating to see that there are TWO different people here......

My MY...TWO PEOPLE HATE CHEROKEE.....

And by the looks of it several hate Angela from last night...

craziness......you two are pure crazy
CAPITOL LETTERS
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:13:49 (EDT)
Cherokee~Sedona? California maybe?
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:13:30 (EDT)
Emm...Actually "no name" I wasn't referring to the monetary connotation of "rich". I was using it as a figure of speach, like "oh that's just great".

"oh, that's rich". Sarcasm.
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:13:04 (EDT)
Holly~I have this big keepsake box, as I mentioned, that has all three babies *going home outfits*, little caps from the hospital, baptism certificates, little locks of hair, and one of my favorite maternity shirts that I wore during all three pregnancies. The box also has their baptism videos, and Maranda and Mason's *I'm a Big Brother/Sister* t-shirts. I also have a separate box that has the girl's baptism gown and slippers, and Mason's little white baptism suit(it has a short jacket, old fashioned knee-pants, white shirt, white stockings, suspenders, and a little bow tie which would not fit under his baby *chins*) I had the Baptism clothes prepared for storage by a professional at the dry cleaners so they will not yellow. I swear if our house ever burned down, I would get the kids out first, then try to save those keepsake boxes, and baby albums!
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:12:15 (EDT)
Cherokee ..girlfriend! why do you think you know me or how many kids I have? If any? and what's with my husband leaving???? as far as I know he will be home at usual time, unless you know something I don't, whitch I doubt.
Jessie L
email: sexkitten@earthlink.net
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:11:33 (EDT)
Nope....not that rich.

Make decent money, have never had welfare or handouts, always worked for what little we have. ANd I am not from Indiana, I live in Washington DC. Nice time of year here.
Last week I stood in line with my 4 kids and we got to walk thru and see Ronal Reagan.

Oh was that enough Capital Letters For You?????
poor actually
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:10:47 (EDT)
Angela~Do you know where Sedona is?
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:09:19 (EDT)
So NOW you are black, WITH a kid tht is disabled too? Rich.

Well how!..(I can sy that..I'm Indian.)

Please.

Jessie, Jessie Jessie, {sigh}
your child(ren)are the one's that should be worried. LMAO....


Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:07:03 (EDT)
Angela~I have a bunch of friends who are as sentimental as I am who send them to me. I love poetry. No, I don't think it's corny to pass such beautiful things on to your children.
Holly
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:05:42 (EDT)
Angela~ in that case they are going to have ban every single computer in every single public library and coffee shop in Indiana. That might be difficult ;/
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:04:04 (EDT)
And not that this matters.
But I am African American, since the day I was born. ANd my husband is white, so my children are a lighter color than me, so I deal with simple minded people like you on a daily basis.

Before you really start whipping out the insults...make sure you know who your dealing here. I wont go anywhere to complain about you...I will take you head on.
I am not one to pass the Buck and let someone else do what I am perfectly capapble of.
A black woman as well
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:03:19 (EDT)
Oh C'mon let's all post our names shall we? I don't want anyone getting any credit for trying to be me!
Sorry Cherokee, do not get so upset..tend to your family, not me. I would hate to know that little children are being neglected over little old me.
Jessie L
email: sexkitten@earthlink.net
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:03:18 (EDT)
Oh C'mon let's all post our names shall we? I don't want anyone getting any credit for trying to be me!
Sorry Cherokee, do not get so upset..tend to your family, not me. I would hate to know that little children are being neglected over little old me.
Jessie L
email: sexkitten@earthlink.net
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:02:49 (EDT)
Angela~ I have these two gift boxes for my daughters. They are called "To My Daughter With Love". It has a place to write about how I met their dad, etc, and a jornaling area for when I was pregnant, and when they started dating (not Maddi yet tho, lol)etc. It's pretty cool.
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:02:40 (EDT)
...Oh for goodness sakes! It is OBVIOUS who you are by your poor grammar and spelling, as well as your inability to use Capitalization. Grow up, and move on you psycho! Julie from IParenting has GOT to be tired of blocking your ISP's by now. No wonder your husband took off...you are a lunatic.
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:02:22 (EDT)
Cherokee~Yep! Much sarcasm intended! Hee!Hee!

Holly~Again! Beautiful! Where do you find these things? Have you read any Chicken Soup books? I have Chicken Soup for the Mother's Soul 1 and 2. I also have Chicken Soup for the Expectant Mother's Soul. I read all three books, while pregnant with all three of my babies. They have a lot of those types of readings and poems in them, and they are just beautiful keepsakes to me! All three books have been put in my *Newborn Keepsakes* box that I have the kid's *coming home* outfits in, hospital caps, etc. If God blesses us with Grandchildren, I will give those books to my girls(or daughter-in-law) when they are expecting babies. I know, it's corny...but hey...I'm entitled as a mother to occasional corniness.
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:00:11 (EDT)
LOL...no, you just go to a forum where you have no friends, and begin your verbal assault. You are right...that is so much better...

?!!

I've heard that is what chat rooms are for.

Clearly you are on a hormonal swing or some such thing, and need to take your aggressions out on strangers. Tsk tsk tsk...BP hunny....
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 15:00:05 (EDT)
how would you know who the heck I am.
I have never made a racist comment in my life.

your such a child.
shame on you
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 14:58:06 (EDT)
>>You should be very ashamed of yourself.<<

I would be more concerned about by character if I was lying, as you just have...


Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 14:58:04 (EDT)
Oh Good LORD...gimme a break you guys....

Stop lying for Pete's Sake...you just happened to show up here now too. LMAO...how transparent!!!
EVERYONE says anecdotes like that. People make fun of blacks. People make fun of Indians. Get Real! Now QUICK send a quick lying email to iparenting to tattle!

people can wish miscarriage by beating on a pregnant woman on this site and not be banned. I made a joke to someone who was insulting members of this board. GET OVER YOURSELF!
Cherokee
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 14:56:01 (EDT)
Cherokee~Yep! I thought it was pretty cool that she stopped smoking too. My dad quit probably 20 years ago, but mom never did...tried a few times, but it took a few tries before it *stuck*. They just repainted the inside of their whole house, and recarpeted it all too. Once they had both stopped smoking, they both really noticed the *smoke smell* in everything. The paint/carpet were done over a long weekend while Mom & Dad were out of town, so it could be a surprise to her. That is about as romantic as my dad gets, but I thought it was a pretty neat thing for him to do for her. =) I still have a brother, sister, and two sisters-in-law that smoke, as well as Jake, and Mom makes them all go out on the deck to smoke. Good for her! =)
angela
Thursday, June 17, 2004 at 14:54:01 (EDT)