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Ummm...Jenn....the only GUILTY person here is the person who purposely betrayed our trust, and the person who posted the GOD post.

As for this "shithole" ....well, the only people who make it "shit" are the people who do the above mentioned.

No, we don't let the 'net rule our life. You yourself mentioned that you have made good friends here. As have we. We just decided to not let one bad apple spoil the barrel. Capiche? LMAO....a bit holier-than-thou don't you think.
Some of us do go a whole {{gasp}} day with out posting.

LMAO....about that bug you have in your behind....good luck with that.:0)



Cherokee
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 22:42:26 (EDT)
Okey-Dokey. See ya!
angela
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 21:07:27 (EDT)



I liked this place, but having people get the police/FBI. I think this has gotten a bit out of control. I am NOT picking on anyone. I personally do not know who posted the GOD post. And it was not me, or anything about me and my children. But this a computer world. And you are ALL GUILTY of sending someone your picture. I myself got scolded by my best friend today that I shared my picture. I am taking her advice and leaving all together. I put my heart out there and do believe I might have been hurt a time or two...but with all that said...I am saying goodbye. I wish you all luck.

And for what its worth...this IS ONLY A COMPUTER SITE......
Really, I love the friends I have met on the internet, but would never let the internet RULE my life.

Maybe if some of spent more time with your kids you would be less upset about who you have sent pictures of them to.. But if in your clarity you see a bit of reality...then you have let go of this shithole. If not...your still looking for all the hurt and pain you endure.



I am not trying to come across as a high and mighty
I know I was not close to alot of you, and I have my differences with many, but still wanted to tell you all goodbye.

I wish you all the best
Jenn
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 20:14:36 (EDT)
Hello, everyone. I haven’t been ignoring you guys on purpose! This job has been keeping me insanely busy! I’m so glad it’s Friday. How has everyone been? Marie, I’m glad you’re not hurt too badly.

I don’t have any major plans for the weekend. Tomorrow I may take Mickey to see Harry Potter at the Imax theater. Though, I’ve been planning that for weeks and it keeps falling through because her mom’s car has been broken, so we’ll see what happens. I’m sure I’ll be cleaning a lot, too, because my mom and sister are coming to visit at the end of next week. My sister is about 20 weeks pregnant and we’re going to go through all of Izzy’s outgrown stuff for her to borrow (though, she’s having a boy so that rules out most of her bigger clothes… her infant stuff is all greens and yellows though, because we didn’t know what we were having). I love going through all the old stuff. It went by so fast!

Did I tell you guys that Isabelle is saying, “ABC”? It is so adorable. She says it really fast. We’re working on “D”. We’ve been playing in the yard every day after work this week because it hasn’t been too hot (we had a several-week spell of 95+ every day, and it was so humid we were all miserable playing outside, even after work, so we’re making up for lost time). Isabelle picks up the tennis ball and throws it about a foot for our dog to chase. He pounces on it and brings it back for her. I love to see them so involved like that. We have a play yard for her, and her favorite part is going down the slide. When she gets to the bottom her hair is sticking up in all directions from the static (it’s plastic). We’re having so much fun with her!

Well, everyone have a good weekend!

Barb
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 14:48:07 (EDT)
Happy Friday all :) I got poison oak, and is it ever driving me crazy!! ugh... I never used to get that stuff, but I guess since Im *older* now? lol Today is DD2 birthday. She is having her friends party next weekend tho. She is having a skating party, complete with Limo service and all :) not spoiled huh? lol DD1 had some more bloodwork done yesterday, it was the first time she went back alone, I almost felt not needed, and I didnt like it!! ( I didnt tell her that tho, she was being brave! ) Her ears are finally better from last week, man that was horrible! DS is still congested and off and on with fever, not fun. Still packing for the move, no wonder Im tired :)
Marie :) I dont care for 4 wheelers. My sister was on one last year, and put my nephew on it with her with NO helmet on and slammed into a tree. I was so pissed at her for not using her head. He got banged up pretty good. I mean, if she didnt want to be safe herself, that is one thing, for for the love of God, protect your kid. ugh... anyway, Im so glad your okay.
Melissa :) Way to go on the weight loss!! Super :)
Angela, Cherokee, Ellyn, Margarita, Barb, Jo-mo mama .. HI! Hope I didnt miss anyone. Have a great weekend.
Lyne
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 13:52:56 (EDT)
hey there everyone!

CHEROKEE, i've never heard of a charter school. is it kind of like the montessori program? i have to say, grouping children according to their abilities in different subjects seems to make WAY more sense to me than teaching them whatever their "age" deems right.

MARGARITA, enjoy your time off! are you traveling at all or just hanging out at home?

MARIE, that's just awful. a very close friend of mine lost his son on a 4 wheeler so i can't help but be a little against them! he was 18 and wasn't being responsible, to say the least, but it still brings chills up my spine. well thank God you weren't hurt badly! go hug Ryan a little extra today! hey, what's going on with your job???

any interesting plans for the weekend??
j-mo mama
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 13:22:27 (EDT)
FYI - could you please use the name you normally post under so that I know if I want to give this any merit?

Just popping in to say hi.
This next week will be my last week of summer classes, and then I will have 3 weeks off. I probably won't be around much because we have a lot of plans for those 3 weeks. One of my plans is to make a new exercise regime a habit. I will probably have to clean out the garage for dh to make this work, since my total body gym is out there and I don't want it set up in the house. I love my total body gym, too Cherokee. Would love to have (lol I can't remember how it is spelled) one of the other machines you are talking about, I have seen them and they look wonderful. As it is, dd and I have been doing pilates a few times a week. You should see her try to "swim" it is so cute.

See you all later!
Margarita
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 12:36:32 (EDT)
Ummm, Julie, dear, please don't be wagging you hypocritical finger at us. Someone who has pulled such hijinx on this very board has no place, no room, no conscience, no RIGHT to be "shame on you-ing" to those of us that were affected by that ugly hateful post. And, didn't you post a link for us to view your "daughter"? Some of us are mature enough to handle relationships with other women that don't involved the crap she pulled. There are about six of us that email daily, speak on the phone occasionally, exchange pics of our famiies etc. That is proof positive that there are also people out there that CAN be trusted. So what you say makes no sense. Not to mention that you are not in a position to say even utter it. And don't even start in with the "you never accepted me" lines ok Julie? Because we accepted you when you were "born again" and even when you were all of your other aliases, the truth just managed to come through every time and you blew it. The pictures were given to someone we TRUSTED, who forwarded them to someone we most certainly DID NOT trust, not to someone who displayed behavior like yours, the emotional equivalent to Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. .. Also, didn't you say you leaving darn it?

Anyhoo, onto to more "sane" topics. I just registered Maddi in a charter school yesterday. I have benn visiting charter schools since May. We were pretty happy with this school. The school promotes "ability grouping" so subjects that aren't her best she is with other the kids at her level. But for things like math and Spanish, for example, that she excels at, they will group her with children that are also at her level, even if they are older. I love this concept. Also, the classroom ratio is one student, one instructional aide per 20-22 kids. When they are grouped in their ability groups, it is one teacher per 5 students. Good odds. Lots of attention and focus on the individual instead of the groups. I am thrilled, it will be a good fit.They wear uniforms, which Maddi (aka fashion princess) is not too happy about, but she'll get over it. :)

Melissa, you mentioned exercise. Have you tried Tae-Bo? I know it is very 90's (Just like my bangs...)LOL..but hey, it gets your ticker pumpin', and its fun. Good music. I also have an eliptical trainer in my room and a Total Gym. It's a good regimen an I enjoy it. Also, the eliptical trainer is low-impact on your knees and ankles. That is what I like about the eliptical trainer because some equipment will make you look great but the long term effects are hellacious on your joints and knees. Anyway..just my ten cents :0)

Barb~ where ya been girl?

HI Angela, Jmo and Lyne. What are you all up to.

Awww...little man just put his head on my leg. He was up a couple of times last night with this teeth (darn molars). I'm going to go give him some love. See ya later.



Cherokee
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 11:56:56 (EDT)
Julie - Some of us didn't even give our photos out to anyone. Being "careful" didn't protect us.

Ellyn
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 10:56:24 (EDT)
I only want to alert you ladies that I have posted on other boards with the person being accused of betraying your trust.
This person has violated my privacy as well, and I do have proof to say that. She has sent my pic of my family and I to someone less deserving.
I'm sorry to see that she continues this nonsense. It looks like alot of you are being hurt.
I have no clue why she feels the need to do this, I think she is just trying to be everyone's "friend" ya..right!
FYI
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 10:43:39 (EDT)
Julie~Yep, we will certainly be more careful. Of course, the person who actually MADE that post is not somebody we would even consider giving our children's pictures, our pictures, etc. too. Much like you, she is a weird whackjob, and we would never give her anything of ours of a personal nature. She got our information from a trusted third party, and being a total whackjob, had nothing better to do with her time then obsess about us. Live and learn I guess.
angela
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 09:56:09 (EDT)
Marie ~ Well at least you have learned from all of this. I understand about "not so proud moments" - I have had MORE than my fair share...I am sure we all have.

Margarita ~ THANKS! I am way excited about my progress!

Julie ~ Please understand that I am trying to say this in the nicest way possible....but some of us actually have made friends here....and one of those so-called "friends" violated a trust that was given to them and that is hurtful! Not to mention the threats that were made. I am sure if one of your friends threatened you and your family in the same manner that this so-called friend threatened some of the people on this board you would be in an "uproar" as well. Being that you were not around when this happened I think it might be best that you just stay out of it and not bring it up again. Again, please understand that I am trying to be as nice as possible about this.
Melissa
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 09:12:19 (EDT)
>Julie - congrats on the birth of your daughter. I hope that your emotions have calmed down since then. If you had read the post that caused all this hooplah, then you would understand exactly why all the uproar.

Margarita ~ Thank you. Being "emotional" is just part of who I am. ;) And I did read that post...and whoever wrote it had nothing better to do with their time than get all you gals in a uproar. Whoever they are they are laughing thier butts off right now. I know the game because I was a player once. What they did was aweful, but this is the Internet for goodness sakes. Why would you take them seriously? I am very careful not to share any personal information that could lead any strangers to my house. The only people who are upset by this post are people who were dumb enough to do just that. No offense intended to anyone, but you gals have got to be more careful.
Julie
Friday, July 23, 2004 at 05:22:45 (EDT)
Ouch Marie!! My sister and her family have 2 quads and I have let them take my daughter for rides on them (at very moderate speeds and on good roads, obviously) but I know of several people who have been seriously injured or killed while operating or riding on quads. They certainly can be dangerous, just like any hobby can be, if not used properly. A woman was just injured pretty badly when she fell off of her horse here in town recently, the horse (normally a very calm horse) spooked at something and the rider wasn't expecting it. She has had memory loss about the event and was scraped and bruised badly. A good reminder for me to always wear a helmet while riding.

Melissa - WAY TO GO!!

Julie - congrats on the birth of your daughter. I hope that your emotions have calmed down since then. If you had read the post that caused all this hooplah, then you would understand exactly why all the uproar.

Hello to Cherokee and Angela and anyone else I may have missed. I am off to play on the trampoline with dd.
Margarita
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 20:47:26 (EDT)
Angela~ oh yes..she feels terrible!! she keeps apoligizing (sp) I just feel bad for her now that she has this on her record and has to go through all this Sh$t.
She came over the first thing yesterday morning and was crying and all that..lesson learned is all I can say
Marie
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 18:12:28 (EDT)
Marie~I'm sure your neighbor is just sick about it, but she would probably have never gotten over it had you be maimed or killed. I'm glad you are both in relatively good shape.
angela
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 18:07:30 (EDT)
Melissa~ yes..I did know shw was drinking..again..not one of my proudest moments..I had been drinking as well
Marie
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 18:07:28 (EDT)
Marie ~ Did you know that she had been drinking? I am glad you have learned your lesson and that you are not going to be getting on that thing with her anymore!
Melissa
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 18:04:00 (EDT)
Cherokee, Angela, Melissa, Lyne,~ Yes it was a quad...I will sure never to get on with her again..( or probely anyone for that matter ) Yes..I am so lucky that I was not hurt, but I also have to admit that my neighbor was also arrested for operating under the influence..and I really feel bad for her..( I really do )these guys in the truck that she tried to avoid insisted on calling the police/ambulance..I have learned my lesson....not cool. I have a beautiful 5 month old who needs me.
Marie
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 17:55:02 (EDT)
Marie ~ Thank the good Lord you were not hurt more seriously! I hope that you will think twice before getting back on one of those cycles with your neighbor. I hope you get to feeling better soon.
Melissa
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 16:33:29 (EDT)
Marie~I also meant to say...UGGH hope you are feeling better soon and thank GOODNESS you weren't hurt more seriously. Was it one of those quads? My daughter's boyfriend wrecked his quad about 6 months ago. It was a Banchee (sp?) He was seriously injured and just started walking again 3 months ago...he has alot of metal (titanium) in his body now. I'm glad you weren't hurt worse. :0) In the ER we call motorcycles/quads donor cycles.



Cherokee
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 16:07:07 (EDT)
Julie, NO. The person I was referring to is at Iparenting.

Also, I never knew you were really "affiliated" with us in the first place. How many times are you going to pull the "Hrrrrrmph...**door slam**" routine. Geez.



Cherokee
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 16:05:44 (EDT)
Marie :) Im sorry, I meant to send get well wishes your way!! That sounds scarey and painful! Im glad your okay.
Lyne
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 13:55:08 (EDT)
Julie... why is it that whenever there is shit happening on the board, you always seem to start posting again? Just curious.
Lyne
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 13:43:17 (EDT)
Julie~Were the doctors able to put you back on your therapeutic medications now that the baby has been born?
angela
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 13:40:13 (EDT)
Marie~OUCH! I'm sure that was a pretty scary experience! I'm glad you are going to be o.k.!=)

Julie~No, nobody was referring to you. There are probably quite a few Julie's out there, it's a pretty common name.
angela
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 13:30:14 (EDT)
Hi Everyone!

Well the other a night I got into a pretty nasty accident on my neigbor's 4 wheeler..she was driving along our dirt road and swirved to avoid an oncoming truck and we both rolled of it..she is actually fine..hardly a bruise at all..but I really messed up my lower back and I am covered from head to toe in bruises..I was rushed to the hospital and they took all x-rays and I will be just fine ( just sore )

Melissa~ Congrats to you again at WW ...you must already be starting to feel so much better.
Marie
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 12:29:09 (EDT)
To someone who knows the law...

Actually, whoever you are, I am not threatening or trying to scare anyone. I think if you had been on the receiving end, you would have reacted similarly. I just repeated what the Detective told me. Yes, he told me I that I wouldn't
be able to prosecute..not because of the law, but because it is in different states and the FBI would need to be involved and holy cow...doesn't that just sound like a pain in the ass? LOL. I really have more to do with my life.
However, I must (gently) correct you in that it IS, in fact, against the law to forge an IP addy, (at least in AZ). More and more acts are the internet are being investigated. This person made post as God, to say ugly things and in
some law enforcement's perception made a threat of you will all die and your children will become ill soon. The funny thing is, nobody who knows me on the board believes it. You see, when someone uses your computer, your name (same as signing a check that doesn't belong to you, was the way it was explained to me).

My intention, I would like to make crystal clear - is not to lock anyone up, but to show that someone who is innocent of something should have no trouble prooving it. I'll do whatever is necessary. Granted, a large task as the people involved are in Bakersfield, Ca, Chandler, AZ Evansville, WI and Evanston, IL...Iparenting didn't look into this at all! I sent them an email saying I was going to write a letter to every single one of their sponsors telling them what kind of site they are affiliated with that would allow someone to say such hurtful things to another women aboouther children, this has been going on for months. And we all knew who that was - she admitted it. Yet they allowed it to continue. And look where it has escalated.

Funny, after I told them I was going to write to their sponsors, the finger was pointed at me. They REFUSE to tell me what the proof is. They pushed me wayyyyy to far, and I am pushing back. It is absolutely impossible, as my children don't use this computer, my husband has his own computer. This is my computer...do I want to hand my computer over to some forensic computer programmer dude, to disassemble, etc.. not particulary. I do everything on my computer. I could use my husband's computer, or my laptop I guess (very slow, don't like it much). Still, again, pain in the ASS. But I will. I take particular offense that none of this was really looked into. I realize Iparenting is very busy and it would take some time, but, as I said earlier if they had done something beside ask the accused parties "Did you do this" they would know. It is is simply impossible! (and I have proof as other women on the board have seen). I was wondering, are you in law enforcement? Or did you just post what you believed to be true? Because the detective I talked to, well, I kinda think he knows what he is talking about. I mean, he really does "actually know the law". :0)

The people who did this is awful and vindictive. Jealous and lonely. So sad. :( I feel sorry for you two.




Cherokee
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 12:15:56 (EDT)
Cherokee's post says nothing about breaking into a firewall and stealing an IP address. She's talking about someone hiding behind a firewall and sending a post with a forged IP address. That can, indeed, be done. At the very least, a person who obtains someone's IP address and forges a post using that address HAS violated iParenting's stated policy (see top of page) against impersonating others -- and shouldn't that person be banned from posting?

Ellyn
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 11:43:28 (EDT)
Anon poster... if you know so much about this, then tell us who you are! PROVE to us who you are and that you really have the knowledge that you say you have. Enough of the anon postings.
Lyne
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 11:28:42 (EDT)
"someone who actually (thinks they) know the law" ~ If you are so sure of your hieghtened intelligence on the subject matter of law then why the anon post???? Why not let us all know who you are in all of your infinite wisdom????? I am thinking it is because you are just blowing smoke and have NO CLUE as to what you are talking about!!!!
Melissa
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 11:19:31 (EDT)
>>Although some may change servers, your IP will never change. What changes is the access idenification that your computer gives out through a service provider, not your actual IP.>>

Yep! We KNOW that....and?
angela
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 10:51:58 (EDT)
Knows Not Too Much~Detective Borello(sp?) with Chandler PD has told me otherwise. I'll take HIS word over that of an anonymous poster anyday. Good try though.
angela
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 10:50:03 (EDT)
Hate to break it to you ladies. Except for libel, the poster who posted "God" whoever he/she may be, in fact did nothing wrong, illegally anyway. Being that I also work heavily with computers, what this person Cherokee is saying is truly not possible. There is no way that some one can break into a firewall and steal and IP address. In case some of you don't know, IP's are true only to your computer. Although some may change servers, your IP will never change. What changes is the access idenification that your computer gives out through a service provider, not your actual IP. The exchanging of pictures of another persons children is also not illegal. While it is annoying and wrong and we have the right to our privacy, our pictures are not copyrighted so can be shown to whom ever with out legal consequences. I suggest that you ladies/gentlemen be more careful in whom you exchange pictures with. This Cherokee person is trying to threaten or scare whomever she is addressing, which if any of you called your local police dept, they might make a report for you, there is no criminal matter that took place.
Just thought you all should be aware, and again think twice about whom you give your information to. Not everyone can be trusted on the internet.
someone who actually knows the law
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 10:46:58 (EDT)
Hate to break it to you ladies. Except for libel, the poster who posted "God" whoever he/she may be, in fact did nothing wrong, illegally anyway. Being that I also work heavily with computers, what this person Cherokee is saying is truly not possible. There is no way that some one can break into a firewall and steal and IP address. In case some of you don't know, IP's are true only to your computer. Although some may change servers, your IP will never change. What changes is the access idenification that your computer gives out through a service provider, not your actual IP. The exchanging of pictures of another persons children is also not illegal. While it is annoying and wrong and we have the right to our privacy, our pictures are not copyrighted so can be shown to whom ever with out legal consequences. I suggest that you ladies/gentlemen be more careful in whom you exchange pictures with. This Cherokee person is trying to threaten or scare whomever she is addressing, which if any of you called your local police dept, they might make a report for you, there is no criminal matter that took place.
Just thought you all should be aware, and again think twice about whom you give your information to. Not everyone can be trusted on the internet.
someone who actually knows the law
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 10:46:44 (EDT)
Good morning ladies!!

Melissa~That is great! You are really doing well~GOOD FOR YOU! =)

Cherokee~Good for you too in pursuing this matter. I bet *God* had NO idea what she *has wrought*!! The Chandler PD detective is probably quite accustomed to asking questions of some pretty *tough characters*...*God*
is pretty cowardly, so he
should have fun with her. She'll probably start bawling within a minute or something. Tuff huh? =0)

Kerri~How is London? How do you like their taxi's? I always thought their cabs looked pretty cool.

I better run...TC all!

angela
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 10:11:49 (EDT)
Barb ~ Thanks for the congrats on WW! I am very excited about it all and proud of what I have accomplished so far. Only 55 pounds to go!! Woo-hoo!! But please understand, by no stretch of the imagination am I on a DIET! LOL Let's see the first 3 letters of the word diet are D-I-E....no thanks! LOL What WW is all about it changing HOW you eat and helping teach you about better food choices! I suck at diets and will never go on a diet again. This is it for me - it is all about life style change.

J-Mo Mama ~ Thanks for the congrats. As I said to Barb I am very excited and proud of what I have been able to accomplish so far...I bet if I started exercising I would be able to tell an even bigger difference! LOL

Cherokee ~ I am glad to hear that you have reported this terrible situation to the police department! I hope that the matter gets cleared up soon and the truly guilty parties are discovered and brought to justice!
Melissa
Thursday, July 22, 2004 at 09:13:38 (EDT)
Oh, BTW...Holly I was so sorry to hear about your friend :0) {{hugs}}I hope the time he has left is as painless and beautiful as possible.

Also, ladies, the detective said I may have to surrender my computer to prove that this wasn't me. Apparently, there is some sort of chip or something that is the final discernment. I am willing to do whatever it takes. WHATEVER it takes.Bet "God" didn't count on that...LOL...there is only one person on this board who mocks God so blatantly...think about it...{eyeroll}

Anyway, I'll let you know what happens.
Cherokee
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 20:39:52 (EDT)
OH Yes, our old friend, love and "**"

Talk about trying to set something up to frame someone else, LMAO...well, authorities have been notified, and the name, address and phone numbers of the webmaster, Julie, and Tanya, Wendy and Saraj have been entered into a report with Chandler Police Department.

LMAO..they will be investigating this further, as I am sure you know, forging an IP addy using a firewall program while escaping under the radar of the law..is still AGAINST the law nonetheless. Oh, BTW...this is the best part. I was at work when "GOD" made his post. The detective asked me to supply my time punch history (we punch in/out where I work) and the manager of our IT derpartment. He will be verifying all this information to PROVE I was where I said I was. I am actually rather enjoying your little game...in the end, YOU and you know who you are...will be made to look the FOOL. He will be able to check that out tomorrow when my HR department opens. LMAO...

More importantly, I have the support and confidence of every woman on this board. NONE of them believe that I would do such a heinous thing. They have all professed their support, and not surprisingly still believe and know in their hearts I didn't do anything. You slipped up big time, thinking such a cracker jack smart group of ladies would ever buy your song and dance "**". The very fact that you just posted about me "framing"...LOL...can you say PRO-JECT-ING?

You have no idea what little war you have brought to your front door. You want to play this game?...Ok..WE WILL PLAY THIS GAME.

Unlike you, you slimy backboneless (insecure and very lonely) coward, I have PROOF you see, because I HAVE TRUTH ON MY SIDE. Sleep well...
Cherokee
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 20:27:14 (EDT)
Hello All!!! Thanks to everyone for the thoughts and prayers.
Holly
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 20:10:36 (EDT)
Hi guys.
My computer is officially crazy. It has turned itself on twice in the last 12 hours. Once, before I or dh got up, and then while I was at school - I came home just a bit ago and it was on and waiting for me but it is obviously not working properly.

Cherokee - if you can read this - I hope I didn't infect you with whatever I seem to have :o/ or anyone else for that matter.

*rolling eyes* I probably will need to reconfigure the stupid thing AGAIN if my antivirus can't detect whatever it is. I supposedly have good antivirus, both McAfee and Norton although they aren't running at the same time.
Margarita
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 18:48:13 (EDT)
Ellyn~It was going to be in as long as it would take the technicians to take out her hard drive and scan for the corruption source or something to that effect.
angela
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 18:41:21 (EDT)
angela - Do you recall how long Cherokee said her computer would be in the shop? Maybe she's got the same batch of viruses that were plaguing Melissa's machine!

Ellyn
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 18:25:30 (EDT)
J-mo, Aghreed on Scott. Don't you love the way he tries to hide bis receding hairline with the Axl Rose headband??

Ellyn
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 18:01:08 (EDT)
So, with everything said and done....we do know it was NOT saraj/SEA either.

Have any of you figured it out yet???

She has not yet posted.



I hope your all more careful.
She did this to frame Wendy.
To make her look bad.
She was your friend.
And she said those awful hateful things about herself and her friends.



**
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 17:20:29 (EDT)
hi ladies,
what a day! whew!

MELISSA, that is great about WW. did you get your star? don't ever lose sight of the fact that you are changing your eating habits for life, and ensuring a healthier lifestyle!

JEN, that is just terrible about your BIL. my heart goes out to him and his wife. it really goes to show that all the money and success in the world really means nothing at the end of the day, doesn't it??

tomorrow is my daughter's last day of swimming lessons and they're doing a performance for the parents. should be hilarious!

oh i do NOT like the brothers on amazing race either. jim and marsha did SO well last nite considering they were like an hour and a half behind everyone. they didn't give up. and on big brother, i could KNOCK scott OUT!!!
j-mo mama
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 15:37:11 (EDT)
Melissa, great job with the diet! I tell you, you are totally making me think I want to try Weight Watchers!

I was rooting for the father and daughter team on "The Amazing Race" as well. Too bad! I definitely don't like the brothers or Colin (I think that's his name).

Jen, I'm sending good thoughts your way!

Barb
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 15:26:36 (EDT)
Jen ~ BTW the question is changed every Friday.
Melissa
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 13:45:44 (EDT)
Jen ~ I am so very sorry to hear about your BIL. I will definately keep him and his family in my prayers. Isn't it odd that it takes such a terrible situation for us to thank GOD for what he has given to us? I think that happens to a lot of people. I find myself now taking some quiet time every single evening now to sit and thank GOD for the wonderful things he has provided me in my life, like my husband, my family, dh's family and our friends. I think that this quiet time is important to help me keep things in perspective.
Melissa
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 13:45:16 (EDT)
Just stopping in to see if the queston had changed.

I had an awful night last night. My BIL (who is 33..MY AGE ) was rushed to the hospital last night because of his heart. His right hand was numb and his heartbeat was erratic. My sister is beside herself and I went over to her house and sat with her kids while she went to the hospital. She came home and was not saying much. I sat there with her and felt so bad for her. He is still there today, they moved him to the ICU and are doing tests. I feel so very bad. They have two young kids and a nice house, he has a great job and I have always been somewhat envious of them, but when I got home last night I felt so lucky to have my Dh and my kids. We may not have alot of money or a huge house, but we have our health and each other.

Keep my BIL in your prayers ( If your the praying type....) Thanks...


Hope you all have a great day....
And when are they going to change this question??
Jen
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 13:40:27 (EDT)
Ellyn~I'm not a big fan of Marshall and Lance either. The modelling couple DO seem like they are pretty nice, so maybe I'll root for them now.
angela
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:45:51 (EDT)
Ellyn~I'm not a big fan of Marshall and Lance either. The modelling couple DO seem like they are pretty nice, so maybe I'll root for them now.
angela
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:45:42 (EDT)
angela - Yes, they were. I was kind of hoping that Marshall and Lance would get the boot this week.

Ellyn
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:18:21 (EDT)
I was rooting for Jim amd Marsha as well. Now Idon't know who to root for. The model couple seem to be one of the nicer groups.
Riley & Abigail's Mom
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:17:25 (EDT)
Ellyn~Weren't Jim and Marsha the father/daughter team, and he is retired military? Bummer! I was rooting for them too.
angela
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:13:14 (EDT)
Well WW weigh-in update...last week I lost another 1.8 pounds so that brings my total weight loss to 10.6 pounds (in 4 weeks)! I am so excited and must say am quite proud of myself.

On another note...I just wanted to say that I thought that the "form" letter from Tanya was quite tacky and very unthoughtful. Those of us who did send her an email regarding this situation actually took time out of our day to sit down and come up with a thoughtful letter to express our concerns and what do we get in return for that...a "form" letter. Very very tacky Tanya. ICK!

Anyway on to better things.

Holly ~ I am so very sorry to hear about your friend. I will be praying for him and hope that things will be as painless as possible for him.

Margarita ~ Sorry to hear about your 'puter problems. I just got mine back this morning. As of yesterday afternoon at about 1:00 or 1:30 mine went to the 'puter repair shop! Apparently there were 121 corrupted files on my precious machine! LOL Oh well, it is much better now.

To these multitude of anon posters ~ (dare I even try to get the names in here) ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? Are you seriously going to tell someone to grow up and fail to use your name?????? Get serious idiot!
Melissa
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:12:47 (EDT)
angela -

I watched. Jim and Marsha got eliminated. Lauren was sad since that was "her" team.

Ellyn
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 11:03:26 (EDT)
Good Morning all! Ugh~it rained last night, and the temp. today is supposed to be 91 degrees. Sound steamy enough for ya? The mosquitoes love this weather too....oh joy!

Holly~I am sorry about your friend. My thoughts are with you and his family.

Did anybody watch The Amazing Race last night? I missed it, and was wondering who got eliminated.
angela
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 10:53:25 (EDT)
Good morning, everyone.

Holly, I’m so sorry about your friend. Best wishes to you.

Wendy, I see your point, but look at it from our point of view… I asked you yesterday to explain on the board because now I’m paranoid about e-mails. This whole mess is really awful. I hate being suspicious of everyone.

Barb
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 08:37:08 (EDT)
Morning ladies.. Calling for more storms and rain, I think I might go back on vacation!! No rain at all, and sunny days.
Margarita :) Sorry I cant help you out, Im sure someone here can.
Hi's to all
Lyne
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 08:22:02 (EDT)
Ellyn,
or anyone else for that matter.
Yes, it is very late and I am still online. I just finished up my homework and ran into a problem I am wondering if any of you have experienced.
I was signing out and my computer wouldn't turn off from the start menu. I had this problem before I reconfigured my computer, and my computer was also full of viruses that my Norton didn't pick up. Also, just today I noticed these problems - I got a message several times saying my anti virus files were corrupted and my outlook kept freezing up on me, over and over again.
I am feeling paranoid now, wondering if there is a virus out there that allows someone remote access to your computer and if so can they actually access it's contents? I have some work stuff on here that I haven't removed yet!! I have a firewall, a McAfee one, and have McAfee antivirus right now which has been corrupted, evidentally. Anybody have any ideas? I don't want to reconfigure my pc again, so if you can tell me how to fix it I would like to look into it.
Margarita
Wednesday, July 21, 2004 at 03:15:12 (EDT)
O.K.~Now that I got the groceries out of this bijillion percent heat and humidity....

I too emailed Tanya, and told her that if I was incorrect in my suspicions of Wendy regarding this matter,(i.e. if she did NOT post as *God*, or forward our information and pictures to the person who did) that I would like to know, and I would be the first in line to apologize. Of course Tanya and IParenting will not release the name of the person in question without a court order, she/he has a right to their privacy. O.K...whatever. But, I never received anything to exonerate Wendy, and I still have not been made aware of anything regarding that subject. That's all I can say. If I am wrong, I will apologize. Until I know anything concrete other than my own suspicions about this matter, how can I do anything but *stick to my guns* so to speak. So, somebody, anybody, please enlighten me.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 22:47:43 (EDT)
It has come to my attention that I do owe Wendy an apology and wanted to do so publicly since I made the statment I did publicly. Also, I do not know that she would want to receive an email from me.

So, Wendy, I do extend my apology for making the statement I did on the board rather than coming to you privately and asking for your explanation of my suspicions. I also apologize to the board members here for posting my statement and causing any disruption to the board.
Margarita
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 22:38:34 (EDT)
Wendy~Are you then saying you DID NOT give Saraj any of our pictures? I see she has not been here lately. Get off of your moral high horse then and explain what happened.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 22:00:36 (EDT)
So Wendy~Explain then.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 21:56:18 (EDT)
Wendy~Tanya told us NOT to email you.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 21:55:23 (EDT)
Wendy,
If you would like I can email you regarding this post you made. I don't want to email you without your permission.
I asked Tanya specifically to let me know if they knew for sure that you weren't involved becuase I would of course want to aplogogize if that was the case. She wouldn't give any information either way.
If you would like to know why I am suspicious, I would gladly discuss it with you via an email.
Margarita
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 21:52:08 (EDT)
This note is to everyone. Don’t you think its kinda funny that you couldn’t ask me what was going on? That all that was shot around were accusations? You know its funny how I only got one email in my box about this. And it wasn’t “ Wendy do you know what is going on?” no it was I know you did this and I don’t know why. I think it is awful how you ladies have acted towards me. Also I have not once not ever shared any information or pictures of anyone. There is only one person saying I did and instigating this whole mess. I haven’t even seen Ellyn’s pictures. I have no idea what she or her daughter looks like. Not only that but the whole bangs thing. Ok yeah that was weird since the conversation started when I hadn’t been online in a week. Oh yeah I too have them! Big friggin deal!!! I have also shared my pictures with all of you. How would it make you feel if no one came straight to you and just smeared your name (undeservingly) all over the internet? And going to another board and posting this nonsense when they had no business being over there? I think this is an absolute waste of my time to continue on this board. You (and you know who you are) have won. You ran me off this board and I could care less. I no longer wish to continue ANY relationships with ANY of you from this board. What I have learned out of this is to not be so trusting of others, that no matter what, if one is on a witch hunt, then all will follow. I may have misjudged some of you since being under the influence of others on this board and for that I am truly sorry. I would suggest pointing your finger in another direction since I am not to blame. Since there is nothing but my word on the pictures matter, you can think what you will. On the offensive post matter, Julie took care of it and that person was banned.
I wish you all well
“Fools are they who open their mouths, and wise are they who are quiet”
I suggest that you all think about that quote, as for the whole weekend I was “quiet”.

Wendy
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 21:07:23 (EDT)
Margarita - Still, the solar system is a fascinating topic. In one of my earlier carnations (from 1989-92), I was an editor for an educational publishing company. One of my last projects was researching and developing a poster series on the solar system, along with related classroom activities and a teacher's guide. It was one of the neatest projects I worked on there. Now, the posters are coming in handy as my daughter starts her solar system studies.

Ellyn
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 20:58:22 (EDT)
LOL Ellyn, it is purely coincidence, but you bet that once I realized it, I decided to make the most of it.
I decided on the moon because for a different class I had to put together an electronic thematic unit bibliogrpahy and I had chosen the solar system. Rather than research a second subject, I decided to use the resources I already had. ;o)
Margarita
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 19:32:41 (EDT)
hey HOLLY, i just wanted to tell you i'm really sorry to hear about your friend stopping his cancer treatment. that is so sad, but it is his choice, and i'm glad you love and respect him enough to support him.
j-mo mama
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 19:24:22 (EDT)
Margarita - Glad to hear that it worked for you! Is it coincidence that you're giving a presentation on the moon tomorrow when the 35th anniversary of the moon landing was today?

Ellyn
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 18:57:05 (EDT)
Margarita~ I know you weren't lecturing. I totally understand what you are saying. I doesn't make it any less heartbreaking though. He still has his humor about him, he told me today that he was a very hard-hearted person for someone with only half a heart. He reminds me of my Papaw in a lot of ways, he can make a joke out of anything. Just for example, my Papaw has been having trouble with his bowels, a lot of bowel movements, but he hasn't been able to eat, and he asked his doctor the other day "Just how long can a person sh** on credit"!! Anyways I'm sure you all don't want to hear all this, I just need somewhere to vent a little. Thanks!!
Holly
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 18:32:34 (EDT)
Holly - sorry :o( that IS sad. I know you understand, so I am not saying this as a "lecture" just observing it would be a lot sadder to see him suffer from the effects of the medication only to pass away.

I never made it to try on dresses today :o(. I had to go get a bunch of supplies for the poster I am making for class. Oh well, I got a bunch of new scrapbooking stuff in the process (and when will I use it ;op) My sister loaned me a dress that might work, otherwise I guess I will do it tomorrow or Thursday. Cutting it kind of short timewise, to find the perfect dress.

Melissa - I'll get those out to you.

HEY!! Armstrong took first place today. LOL tomorrow I am doing a presentation on a lesson plan on the moon. I will be mentioning NEIL Armstrong. So far in my practice I have said Louis and now that I have Lance on the brain... ugh... more confusion. I will have to make myself a BIG note on my card. Whoever said L. Armstrong is a hottie is correct, in my book.

Ellyn - thank you! All me Esme's turned into Esme (well, I don't think I can do it here since I am not using word but you get my point :o). Oh! LOL me married Irish is coming out ;O).

Melissa - I'll get those to you tomorrow sometime.

Time to get back to my mopping.

Margarita
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 18:16:28 (EDT)
Hello
Paisley
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 18:08:38 (EDT)
Just found out that Donald Trump got the winning vote on the Casino in French Lick Indiana. Don't know if anyone has been following that or not.
Holly
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 18:06:24 (EDT)
Good Evening All! It's been a busy day here I see. I found out today that a very dear friend of mine decided to stop his cancer treatment because it was causing him more health problems on top of the ones he already has. In a way I understand with all he has been through, but I hate to see someone give up.
Holly
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:59:06 (EDT)
Actually~I don't call YOU *Saraj*. I was just pointing out that you slipped up, and need to crawl back into oblivion under your bridge.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:50:55 (EDT)
Saraj~Nice Try!! Especially since you have been using the SN *SEA* for weeks now!! I call you Saraj out of old habits.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:49:01 (EDT)
Dont get me involved in this
Saraj
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:46:08 (EDT)
I just wanted to add~Cherokee, Ellyn, and myself are well aware of exactly WHO had photos of ourselves and beautiful babies. There are only about six people at most. They are all posting here, except for one. Thank you for your prayers though.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:31:29 (EDT)
"**"~I certainly will not shoot the messenger.=) I am pretty aware of who is NOT here, and I think I know who you are getting at(Saraj by chance?) Wendy should not have given the nutjob our pictures and personal information though.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:28:35 (EDT)
Dont shoot the messenger, But I was just informed who the nasty post was from. And It is not who people were led to believe it was. This is not Wendy posting. Just someone who cares that you are all worrying about who has what information.
You may not want to believe who it is, but the truth will soon be known.

HINT*** Take a good look who has not been posting, and dont be so quick to jump on the band wagon to convict someone you have all trusted and befriended. She must be hurting just as all of you are, because she trusted you to believe in her just as you all trusted several people with pictures. And I hate to bring outsiders in, but I know for a fact that other people are privy to information we think is very private.
Again, I am sorry to post without a name, but I am not a regular here, I am not a buddy of Wendys, but I do know alot of you from other boards. And it bothers me to see you all so upset.

I actually have always enjoyed all of your posts under whatever name you have decided to use. And I am in no way trying to hide behind an anon. post. Just dont want you all to lynch me on my regular board as you have done to so many here.

For all of your sakes I hope this is resolved. Everyone is upset about it. Some nasty person went to the archives and dragged it over to the Babies board, from that it was known on the PG and Toddlers board. This is a nasty and hurtful post. And it was in no way a decent thing to do. Betrayal is just that. No matter what form it rears its ugly head.

Good Luck ladies. I really do hope this is resolved for the women who were insulted, and belittled. No matter how ill a person is, it is just plain SICK to bring young children and husbands into it.

I will continue to pray for all of you...but mostly I will continue to pray for the sick person who made such hateful comments about young innocent children.

iparenting, I dont envy any of you in the least.
**
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 17:22:04 (EDT)
Sheana~I shared my pictures too! I think I have seen you on the babies board. I just wanted to say, you were not stupid to trust this person with your precious family pictures, a lot of us did, but I certainly would never trust her again. What's that saying...it goes something like *Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice shame on me...fool my three times and I'll kick your butt just out of frustration!* HeeHee...of course I added that last part, but you know what I mean.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 15:37:36 (EDT)
Hi everyone!

I lurk here often but this is my first time posting here. I'm a regular on the toddlers board and was becoming one on the babies board but decided to take a break from that one for awhile.

I've also e-mailed Tanya asking that the identity of the person behind the nasty post be revealed. IMO, since they decided to post such vicious things about people and their innocent children on a public forum their identity should also be revealed on that forum. I think everyone deserves to know who is behind it so that no one else stupidly trusts them again (its too late for me not to trust them as I've already shared pictures of my daughters with the person that everyone is pointing their finger at).

----
I guess since I'm already here I'll go ahead and answer the question.. no I'm not following Lance Armstrong although I think he has a great shot at winning.


Sheana
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 15:34:00 (EDT)
Ellyn :) Your probably right. It just infuriates me that he can continue to reproduce, if it were you or I ( you know what I mean, anyone else in his shoes ) the kids would be taken away immediatley. This is just crazy. Just tells you what money can do I guess. What a loser!!
Melissa :) Howd the weigh in go? Rooting for ya :)
Lyne
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 15:26:09 (EDT)
Lyne - Ick! But castration probably isn't an issue. He's probably had sperm frozen for decades.

Ellyn
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 15:18:42 (EDT)
Way off topic ladies, I know. But..... Michael Jackson is going to be the father of Quads by a surrogate mother! Can you believe this? He is on trial for Molestation, settled on case out of court, and he having MORE kids??? Can we all say castrate??? ugh....
Lyne
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 15:14:04 (EDT)
Angela :) Just because Tanya deleted the post from *God* doesnt mean its done and over with. You, at the very least, deserve to know who violated your trust with YOUR personal and private property. Iparenting should disclose who this person is, ASAP so we all know to stay away from them and delete them from email addys, like you said.
Lyne
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 15:07:29 (EDT)
Lyne & Marie~Exactly! I emailed Tanya yesterday and told her if I am wrong in my suspicions(which I am pretty sure I am not) to let me know. I am woman enough to apologize...I have gotten, zip, nada, nothing, in reply. Also, I emailed her yet again to let her know that I would like to know who this person is. I plan to look into any legal action I can take, and also take whatever legal action necessary to prevent this dirtbag from sending my baby's pictures to any other freaky friends of hers. Plus, these pictures were sent to friends, that we trusted, so I am entitled to know who I need to delete from my email address book. I am not the only one who emailed, but to my knowledge none of us have gotten a response back, nor even an acknowledgement of our concerns. Nice huh? I did tell Tanya that for what it was worth, I would not mention this incident on the forum again, but I don't feel we are being treated properly, so in the words of my eight year old *I take it back*! LOL!
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 14:54:34 (EDT)
Tanya.. if your reading this, as Im sure you are keeping a close eye on this particular board.. PLEASE let us know who this poster is. I for one do not want to have any contact with them what-so-ever, and if we dont know who it was, we wont know, and that is NOT right! Please inform us ALL , thank you.
Lyne
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 14:30:45 (EDT)
Hi Everybody,
I have a question?? Can't Tanya tell us who this poster was??? Or can she atleast tell us who it wasnt?

Marie
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 14:21:09 (EDT)
This message is to Lyne you took the words right out of my mouth. I to was wondering about Wendy on that one so was it a lie anyone out there know? I really felt bad for her to. shame....
Monica
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 14:19:25 (EDT)
Wendy~This is not about Cherokee. It is about YOUR actions, for which only YOU are responsible. This is no time for you to take the moral high ground. You were wrong, and you should be woman enough to own up to your own actions. You were not mature enough to email me either when you were frantically IM'ing and emailing others in your effort at damage control. You have yet to deny anything, which is as good as admitting your own guilt.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 13:46:47 (EDT)
Angela ~ I love that song!
Melissa
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 13:04:54 (EDT)
Not to stir the pot, but.... is Wendy really pregnant and first and foremost, does she really have cancer?? I for one was very concerned over her supposedly having cancer, was that a lie too?? Anyone know?
Lyne
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 13:01:54 (EDT)
Wow you are real bright, Uh didn't in the email that YOU posted not to email you back? Hmmmm lets see I guess I did the ADULT thing and didn't then you go and splash my name all over the place. I guess I could have been a child and done the same about you. Yep real adult like Cherokee.
Wendy
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 13:01:24 (EDT)
BTW Wendy: here is a thought.

"It has been taken to the proper authorities"

Why, when this first happened, did you not contact me and tell me you were handling it, like every other time someone attacked me, Angela, or Ellie, or anyone else. You always sent these encouraging emails that you were "on it". This time, I got NOTHING from you, though I saw a post. Now, typically you were calling like 9 times tht week, then after that post. BAM the calls stopped (thank goodness) but very suspcious nonetheless. Not to a single one of us. Because, this is what happened:

You got chummy with Saraj over the puppy thing, and you were already pissed you were being ignored and that I confronted you about some "white lies". So, you got even. GOOD ONE. You sent my pics to Saraj ("Come on Wendy, let me see..can I?") and stabbed the people in the back who tried to be your friend, who, in fact, have been insulted and attacked just for coming along side of you when YOU were being attacked by someone else you betrayed on another board.

You want to talk about Slander??? How about releasing someone's property ON PURPOSE to someone via the internet (just like mail) who you have reasonable knowledge will use it for questionable reasons? WHO KNOWS where my babies pics are now. I could care less about mine...but you know Wendy, listen up. No matter how much I dislike you for lying to me and everyone else:

**I never, ever, would have done something nasty with your children's pics by forwarding them for ridicule to someone whom I knew disliked you and had a reputation for doing ugly things to other people with the internet as their "weapon of choice". Never, ever would I have done that to C. and N. ***
Cherokee
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 12:34:55 (EDT)
Cherokee~Not bad sleuthing from this *stupid trailer park hick* eh? Actually, I am FAR from stupid, and I don't live in a trailer, but I am a PROUD hick!....*I'm a redneck woman, not some high class broad, I'm a product of my raisin', I say Hell Yah, and Yee Haw....* Hee!Hee!...That is a Gretchen Wilson song BTW for those who have no idea what that little diddy was. =)
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 12:30:30 (EDT)
Yes, Angela, I always can see when Wendy is online as well, because her email addy/IM handle comes up on my buddy list. I notice it isn't there as well.

LMAO. Ridiculous.
Cherokee
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 12:24:48 (EDT)
Well, Wendy, you are no longer "Spokesmom" so YES...I think that says something too. You are probably having your sister post for you.

You know what you did.

So-maybe you didn't write the God post. Six people had possession of those pics--all have been cleared, except for you. But...we all know who you gave the pics too. And..nobody had photos of Larry. Nobody. The only person who has seen him is the "girl next door". Not a big leap to anyone with HALF a friggin' brain. And she HASN'T been here.

I feel sorry for you. Remember that day on the phone and we were discussing people and their moment of clarity? I feel bad for you - because when you have yours regarding your contribution to this "nonsense" - your nonsense....you are indeed going to feel bad..you had a lot of friends on this board Wendy who would have been your friend without the grandiosity...and now those relationships will never be allowed to mature because you betrayed every one of them...and your retaliation because you weren't getting the attention you thought you deserved - well..SHAME ON YOU.
Cherokee
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 12:22:44 (EDT)
Oh~I only ask who is posting for you Wendy, or what computer you are posting from, because according to my IM contact list, you are not even online. Nice try though.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 12:20:29 (EDT)
Yep...Libel and Slander sure ARE serious. So are Terroristic Threats involving children.
angela
Tuesday, July 20, 2004 at 12:15:11 (EDT)