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Welcome to the Sound Off Discussion Board, where parents from all walks of life and all parts of the world come together in one place to share their opinions and thoughts about the question of the week. Please remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion and the freedom to express it. Obscene posts are unwelcome and shall be removed from the board. Please keep in mind that this is a public board. Never post personal information that you would be uncomfortable sharing with others. Comments about this board should be sent to iParenting's Webmaster. Thank you for contributing! If you have a suggestion for the question of the week, send it to feedback@iparenting.com.

Do you feel the national do-not-call list is unconstitutional, as a federal judge in Colorado has ruled? Should it be implemented?

For archived topics, click here.

I think the iparenting folks in Evanston, IL are sleeping there...that or the webmaster is at Northwestern and studying for midterms...
New topic please!
Kerri
Friday, October 24, 2003 at 01:22:25 (EDT)
RE: Do-not-call list. To call it unconstitutional is insane. Would it be unconstitutional to stop sales people from walking into your house to sell you something? Sure, the phone rings and one could choose not to answer it, and there by avoid listening to yet another person, reading from a script, asking for your SIN and total income so you can get a FREE credit card. But like Kelly said, one pays for a phone. It should be under the control of the one who pays for it, not the mass of people who spend their time gathering unsuspecting people's phone numbers (and e-mail addresses) by giving away "FREE" things, sell them to others who then plague you day and night ("oh, I'm sorry, what time zone are you?") trying to sell you something, ANYTHING.
It may be a sign of the decay of society that people don't MAKE things so much anymore, but there is alot of MARKETING going on. We sell, we buy, but most people don't even make dinner, per se. Why buy veggies and scrub and peel (using the peel for stock) and chop when there is instant stir-fry right there in the produce dept, all done and twice the price, and SOLD to us when we are watching TV, listening to the Radio, reading magazines ("Smart folks use Quick Fry - Just add meat. And you're smart" smile and nod). In fact, we are constantly bombarded with images and sounds with only one purpose...To Make Us Buy. We pay for TV (sometimes outrageously) and we still have to watch commercials. Are we going to let them put ads on our phones too? The Do-not-call list is basically so that one can CHOOSE to not be disturbed via telephone by companies who already interrupt our favorite shows, plaster T&A bill-boards over our city streets and country-side and stuff our mailboxes with flyers. The freedom of speech does not entitle one to yell into another's face, or shout your opinions in the dead of night. Those that wrote the constitution lived in a time that king and queens could kill for a remark, and often did; duals were fought over insults perceived or real. This is what the freedom of speech is for. So that you can voice your opinion against those in power (or otherwise) without losing your life for the WORDS you say. It isn't the freedom to say anything you like without consequence - life is never without consequences - and it certainly isn't the freedom to pitch your wares to people at home.

LF
email: I get enough spam
Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 22:13:17 (EDT)
On this national call list being implemented question; Here are my thoughts- I pay for my phone, I contact credit card companies and other companies that have an opt-out of telemarketing clause, I make sure that my phone number stays private, and I want my finincial information to stay private too, so why should my telephone number be provided to a company- and why should they have the right to contact me anytime they want? that violates my right to privacy- sure the telemarketing companies may say that it violates their right to free speech- BUT again I pay for my phone, what happens on my phone should be my decision- not thiers. No part of the do-not-call registry violates thier right- they can still say whatever they want- just not on my phone that I pay for.
Kelly
email: kellyjurotich@hotmail.com
Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 13:25:24 (EDT)
Thank you Goodwin...I guess everyone here was wondering where I had gone...I had a friend there I was posting with everyday and now she is asking for me to reply and I can't even let her know what has happened! Hubby says I'm nuts to take things so seriously, but since I've been unable to get out much anymore it was a comfort so to speak! Sorry to hear about your hubby...I'm going to trigger point massage once a week and it hurts like he**, but hopefully will work out the kinks! Also along with sore jaw it has made my neck sore, horrid headaches, ear fullness and sensitivity to sound...I think I'm falling apart! Hopefully it will eventually go away as it has most definately over-stayed its welcome! TC!
LH
Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 12:03:19 (EDT)
Thanks LG...yep, stress will do that and sometimes I wonder if the splint is making things worse! But sometimes when my jaw is aching real bad and I realize I've forgotten to put it back on like after eating...if I wear it for awhile the pain eases up...could be the pain killer too tho! (LOL)

Seriously tho, the Healthboards.com is a very helpful site with forums on just about anything! I emailed the moderator again last night to beg...still no reply as of yet and probably won't be! Its quite depressing!

If I can be of any help to you though, just let me know! I think I'm becoming an expert on the subject (tmj)..not by choice, tho! TC!
LH
Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 11:55:35 (EDT)
LH: That totally stinks! Is there another website with boards to chat on that might be as helpful? My hubby has TMJ and is currently going through physical therapy for it. He can hardly move his jaw open, and he is also have other physical probelms because of its affects on the body. I do hope you find another support group, as I have found them helpful for other reasons. I wish you the best of luck.

Now, IParenting...this is really getting boring. Are you on vacation?

I say we start a new topic!! Does anyone have any suggestions???
A Goodwin
Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 11:50:22 (EDT)
LH: I also have really bad TMJ. A few years ago it was absolutely horrible and then it pretty much went away for a few years. Now I have been under major stress lately and it has come back in full force. I went to a TMJ specialist when it first started and he gave me a splint. That thing was totally worthless for me...actually made mine tons worse. If you want to talk more let me know...maybe we could offer each other support :-)
LG
Thursday, October 23, 2003 at 10:39:39 (EDT)
Sorry people, I was venting I guess! I am just so angry at being denied access to all the help, advice and support I was getting about my tmj which I am sad to say has gotten so bad that I have to wear a splint (mouthguard) 24/7...take countless amounts of pain and anti-inflamation drugs, endure painful trigger point massage and doctors prodding at me to the point where I am about to go nuts! Not to mention my family is about ready to give me away! I have made friends on those boards and we were kind of supporting each other, venting and keeping each other sain so to speak...and now I can't even post to let them know why I'm not there for them!

Thank goodness iparenting isn't as strict or "holier than tho" with their rules! But seriously folks...a new question would be appreciated!

TC all!
LH
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 23:52:10 (EDT)
I have a great idea for those of you who need something to bide the time till a new question is put up! Go over to Healthboards,com and register and post several times about the nasty way the moderators there treat their loyal posters! I swear these people must think they are GOD or something! I have been posting there on the pain mangement and tmj boards for months now, made some wonderful friends and giving and receiving help and support from them...I got BANNED from the site last Friday and after begging the moderators and pleading with them to let me back on...they told me last night to just move on! The reason why I got banned? Another poster was harassing people and I posted to him "shame..shame"...that was it! No foul language or anything and I got banned for it! Now I cannot ever post there again as my IP number was banned too! I am just sick about this and really wish I could let everyone else there know how I was treated!

Sooo...if you've got a spare minute or two do me a favor and go to Healthboards.com, register, and post that the moderators treat people who are sick and asking for help like pieces of DIRT! TY!
LH
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 17:46:31 (EDT)
iparenting PPPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEEEEEEEE get a NEW question!! Its been over 2 weeks now!! COME ON
Lyne
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 15:40:48 (EDT)
Stacie
Did you not complete your education here in the US? If so, you DID read the constitution not only once but TWICE! The 8th graders AND 10 or 11th graders have to pass the Constitution test before they can graduate. If you live outside of the US, you are of course exempt from this. But if not, it is pretty sad you don't know anything about our government.

As far as the question goes, I think it is self explanatory that telemarketers are an invasion or privacy. My house is much quieter now since Oct. 1st.
duke
Wednesday, October 22, 2003 at 10:02:49 (EDT)
Yo Webmaster! 16 days and counting on this topic. The dust mites have been collecting on this one long enough that they're multiplying now. Please end the suffering. Oh, the humanity!!!!
Philbert Flange
Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 21:06:42 (EDT)
How can someone who hasn't read the Constitution (like 99% of us) "feel" like something is or is not constitutional? Either give us the exact wording of the document so we can decide for ourselves, or simply ask if we wish for the registry to be implemented.
Stacye
Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 18:09:21 (EDT)
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Tuesday, October 21, 2003 at 13:58:57 (EDT)
NEW QUESTION PLEASE!!!
bored again!
Monday, October 20, 2003 at 22:14:39 (EDT)
LH: I know...new question please. This has been what, three weeks now?

SH: I will definitely be keeping my fingers crossed for a Christmas PG. That would certainly be a wonderful Christmas gift! Have fun TTC!
A Goodwin
Monday, October 20, 2003 at 09:33:57 (EDT)
I can finally come home from work and not find 5 messages from telemarketers about winning free cars (supposedly from a drawing we entered, which never happened) or winning 3 Disney vacations in a week! It is great being able to actually answer the phone (instead of screening calls) after 30 plus years without fear of annoying telemarketers. Thank you to those who thought of it! You deserve a medal!
L. Byrd
email: byrdie30@juno.com
Sunday, October 19, 2003 at 21:53:05 (EDT)
Arggompwof!New question pulezz!
LH
Sunday, October 19, 2003 at 03:05:02 (EDT)
I think if he believes the do not call list is unconstitutional he should give out his number. Let them call him instead of me!
sue
Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 18:18:39 (EDT)
A GOODWIN-I'm glad you're feeling better :) I know that first trimester can be torture! We are TTC our 2nd child, we have a daughter. She's actually 10 months old today, and I don't know where the time has gone. I had horrible Preggo brain too, and it sticks with you for a couple of months after the birth too :) I think my DH somehow got it too, b/c he was always very forgetful in my pregnancies.
I think I checked out babycenter before, but I can't remember. To be honest, I'm pretty busy on the sites with iParenting so I don't think I'd have the time.
I'm so glad you're feeling better, and I hope I'll be PG by Christmas...we're keeping our fingers crossed!
SH
email: cshoover26@yahoo.ca
Saturday, October 18, 2003 at 14:58:23 (EDT)
I believe the national do-not-call list should be implemented. I never have the money to give to charities, or to buy things over the phone. I always, always, end up telling them right away that I am not interested and hang up on them anyway. I worked for telemarketing in the past and would rather not get someone like me, who does not want the calls...period! It's the same as using caller id and not answering the calls. I should be able to choose who I want or don't want to talk with.
Brenda
email: wethreekings@att.net
Friday, October 17, 2003 at 23:07:35 (EDT)
I heard yesterday on the radio, from an individual who actually worked with the husband, and it seems that Terry's care has been provided through his employees insurance primarily. What was not covered by insurance has come from the settlement. Since the settlement was some 12 (? correct me if i am wrong) years ago, I doubt there is much remaining. The parents who wish to take care of terry, simply do not have the money to do so. If Michael terminates his marriage, the insurance coverage will terminate with it.

It seems to me that Michael has been more than loyal to Terry, as he has kept her going, through his actions and his continued employment. I have a health care directive, and would not wnat to be kept alive in such circumstances, and have CLEARLY outlined this on paper, for doctors and loved ones to know. I feel for him.

BGB
Arabrab
email: barbara.barrett@osullivanblotch.com
Friday, October 17, 2003 at 17:21:38 (EDT)
How do the telemarketers figure the list stops their Free Speech? Last time I checked I paid for my phone and that means I should have the right to decide whom gets to use it. Now if the telemarketers wnat to send me payment for using my phone I might consider allowing them to use my phone.
kellie
Friday, October 17, 2003 at 10:38:03 (EDT)
PJB & Others: Again, I completely respect your opinion on Terri. I obviously do not know the whole story...only bits and peices of what the media spews. If she is not in a vegetative state, as stated, and she is living without life support other than a feeding tube, than yes, I say have her family take care of her and tell the husband to go screw. I have mixed feelings, but I know for one thing...I would not want to live like that. I would rather live with God than to live in my own prison. Its truly a sad story for her, and her family.

SH - So good to hear from you! Well, no more morning sickness (THANK GOODNESS). Its been a week-or-so now, so I'm pretty happy - energy coming back. Hard to believe I'll be 13 weeks in two days...my second trimester!! Can't wait till you TTC again. I forgot, will this be your first? I'm very forgetful these days. My DH says that he thinks the baby is sucking the brains out of me to form its own. I almost believe him! Anyway, hope you are doing well. Have you ever checked out babycenter.com? They have some awesome chat rooms for pre-preggo's and preggo's. You should check it out...good stuff. Catcha later!
A Goodwin
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 21:58:49 (EDT)
Hi. I just found this website, so I'm responding to the original post. I'm a librarian, and I find it very interesting that the Do Not Call List has been found unconstitutional, yet the Children's Internet Protection Act has been upheld. I am not in favor of children viewing porn, despite the media image that that's all libraries are about anymore. However, filters are ineffective and block more good sites than bad ones. But according to our judicial system, it is more important for telemarketers to have the right to harrass you at home than for you to go into your public library and look up vital health information. It's ridiculous. I was a telemarketer for 2 1/2 weeks in college, and I can tell you for a fact that the people working there are not innocent bystanders. They choose this job, but most don't take it seriously, which is why you here so many hang-ups when you answer the phone. Okay, that's my rant.

As for the woman who's husband took away her feeding tube, as a Roman Catholic it is morally offensive to let a person die an avoidable death. All life is precious. To conciously deny a person the food they need to survive is murder.
nicosmama
email: soulhonee@yahoo.com
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 19:07:33 (EDT)
Do we have any lurking lawyers???? I would like to know how a govenor can stay the execution of a freakin murderer, but Jeb Bush says "his hands are tied" with this case and that there is nothing he can do. I just cannot believe that. There HAS to be SOMETHING someone could do.....


PJB
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 15:10:17 (EDT)
New topic by the forum I see, one I am passionate about.
As a nurse I have seen my share of patients who are living in a state worse than that we would allow animals to live in. My first nursing job was in a long-term ventilator center where people lived years on a vent and usually died because they could never be weaned off. There would be patients in comas, breathing with the assistance of the vent, and receiving nutrition via a feeding tube. This would go on for months to years. These patients all had awful bedsores and were contracted (limbs all curled up where you can no longer straighten them out). It was truly sad and after only one year I quit because I couldn't work with patients I couldn't do anything for or that would never get better. And to see the families demand that their "loved one" live like this and for the doctors to do "everything" made me sick. We nurses would always say, "We wouldn't let a dog live like this". It is an awful area to work in, more so to be a patient in, and I can honestly say I would NOT want to live like that nor would I force my family to do so if they were ever in that condition medically.
Now here is a situation where the patient is not on a ventilator, not in a persistent vegetative coma, and does have family involvement so one can assume she is properly cared for and turned, hence skin integrity intact.
When I heard about the case this week I decided to investigate a little more into her medical prognosis. After reading information on it, it does not appear to me that Terri is in a “vegetative” state. The vegetative patient does not respond to sound, hunger, or pain. Patients cannot obey verbal commands and lack local motor responses. Terri appears to respond to her family members. She also responds to pain and sound, as evidenced by her annoyance with the q-tip to her mouth and her happy response to the music played to her by her parents.
The question arises as to why her husband even cares at this point. If her family is willing to take on the responsibility for her care then let them. Let their hope and love live on by their care for her. And who knows…maybe she WILL wake up. No one owns a crystal ball. Her husband appears to be a slime ball. He received $300,000 after a court ruling in favor of his lawsuit, something about a lost “companion”. Heck of a sum of money to replace a spouse. But now appears to want more. More for him will come from the insurance company once her death occurs, hence why he will not divorce her. No wonder her family is fighting this. I would too! My opinion on this is to let her be. Continue the tube feedings, let her family dote on her, and get her some rehabilitative therapy. It cannot hurt!

Next topic: what is with the woman who is living with Michael Schiavo…AND having children with him? He is “married” and look how he is treating his “wife”. Good to know he doesn’t believe in standing by her in sickness and in health. Makes you sort of wonder if he wont stand by her, his “wife”, chances are he won’t stand by her…his “mistress” with his kids…

kerri
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 14:54:34 (EDT)
Riley,

It is a little hard to answer that question. There are so many situations of criminal activity and morally reprehensible behavior that are motivated by greed. There are a lot of greedy b@st@rds in the world. Mr. Shaivo seems to be their poster boy at the present.

PJB
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 14:25:20 (EDT)
Because we are all human. Thats why.
!
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 14:03:01 (EDT)
I am seriously asking. Why is everything always about money?
Riley's Mom
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 13:48:05 (EDT)
SH,

First of, she is not in a vegitative state.

Your sentiments are indeed totally reasonable by any sane person's standards regarding moving on, and the "right to die". But this guy has indeed moved on. He lives with another woman and has 2 kids with her. So why would he not just divorce Terri and let her parents be her custodians? Could it be because if she dies while they are married he will get her life insurance benefits and what is left of the $750K from the malpractice suit that was earmarked for her care?

PJB
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 13:31:29 (EDT)
I went to the link that LG posted. I read most of what was there, and the last thing I read was the letters from Terri's dad, brother and sister. I seriously doubt 18 doctors are all wrong about her never recovering. However, regarding the money issue. From what I read, if it is correct, her husband has not done what he was supposed to with that money. I also agree with what the brother wrote, let him file for divorce, so he can move on, and her family can make the decisions then. Its hard to tell who is telling the truth from what you read on it. I honestly cant see letting someone be in a vegetive state for that long, but its also not my loved one. I can see BOTH points of view on this.
chris
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 13:25:23 (EDT)
Hmmm, interesting topic that we've switched to.
After hearing about the story about Terri, I told my husband flat out: "If something like that ever happens to me, and there is no chance of recovery, I give you total permission to move on and find someone else to have a life with."
I wouldn't want him to suffer and I wouldn't expect him to miss out on his life. The same goes if it was him in a vegetative state. Even though I love him with all my heart, I would want to move on.
BUT I also wouldn't expect him to make a decision to kill me. I can admit, in that state I would not have the will to live, but I wouldn't want him to have to live with that guilt for the rest of his life either. A written will is a good idea, and although I am still young, I do have a family to worry about. I really should get to it.

A GOODWIN-HOw are you feeling??? Do you still have m/s? I can't wait for AF so I can get back into the TTC game!
SH
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 13:08:38 (EDT)
Thank you PJB

If someone has such a huge desire for specific measures should something happen, then it is their duty to have it in writing. No one can ever REALLY know what Terri's true wishes were because they are not in writing. I have read tons of information about this case and Terri is alive, responsive and very well could be rehabilated although she will never be "normal". Just as there are doctors that say she is brain dead, there are plenty of doctors that say she is not and could be rehabilitated. No matter what she is still a person with a soul and it is wrong for her to be tortured in such a way. I do not believe one bit that her husband is doing everything for her. There are way too many suspicious circumstances in this case to put off as coincidences. If he does not have malicious intent then why is he not allowing Terri's family to even see her all because they released a video tape taken of her 2 years ago showing that she is responsive and alert? If they choose to be there for their daughter during such a horrible event then that is their choice and no one else's. No "man" should ever decide when someone should die...only God can choose that.
LG
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 12:55:41 (EDT)
Is that a rhetorical question? Or are you seriously asking?
PJB
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 12:48:49 (EDT)
Why is everything always about money?

Riley's Mom
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 12:39:42 (EDT)
Main Entry: 1 co·ma
Pronunciation: 'kO-m&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek kOma deep sleep
Date: 1646
1 : a state of profound unconsciousness caused by disease, injury, or poison

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Main Entry: brain death
Function: noun
Date: 1964
: final cessation of activity in the central nervous system especially as indicated by a flat electroencephalogram for a predetermined length of time


Sorry, this woman is not unconscious nor is she brain dead. She is awake and responds to her surroundings. She expresses emotion. Yes she is severly brain damaged and diasbled but a lot of people are, they shouldnt all be killed. This rings a lot of nazism, exterminating the mentally and physically disabled to achieve the master race. Who is the ONLY one who says that Terri would want to die? It is her "husband", the only one who is in a postition to gain from her death! Follow the money folks. This is typical from a society which has a negligible regard for life.
God help you should you find yourself in a state where you can not speak for yourself. Hope youre married to a stand up person.

PJB
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 11:54:25 (EDT)
LG: I completely and totally respect your opinion, but from what I've read, Chris is right. It has been undisputed, in the 13 years of legal battles between Terri's husband and her parents, that Terri's wishes were that she wouldn't have wanted to live this way. Unfortunately, she did not write a "living will" (something we should all do), and this is why she's been forced to live as a vegetable for the last 13 years. Her facial movements and reactions are involuntary, and it has been proven that she is brain dead. Her husband has done nothing but stand up for his wife and her beliefs. He could have walked away from this years ago, but he wanted to give his wife the peace that she asked for. God will take care of Terri, and she will be in a more loving place that we could ever imagine...as a whole person. And if you think that this is a new procedure, you should check out your local nursing home. I wish for Terri's husband and parents much peace during this difficult time. No matter what, it is difficult seeing a loved one go.
A Goodwin
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 09:24:50 (EDT)
this woman has been in a comotose state for 13 yrs now, and over 18 doctors saying there is no chance of improvement, and after 13 yrs you would have seen something by now. it is purely evil to let this woman live as a vegtable, expecially when her wishes were NOT to live this way. i think they are doing the right thing.
chris
Thursday, October 16, 2003 at 08:45:53 (EDT)
Ummm...iparenting, I think its time to change the question again!
LH
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 at 23:04:46 (EDT)
This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or anything else for that matter, but....
ALICIA FISCHER~ Wow I haven't seen that name very often (Fischer). My maiden name is actually Fischer. It is very uncommon where I am from. So naturally I was surprised when I saw it. Who knows maybe we are related some where "down the line". ")
sc
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 at 22:49:52 (EDT)
This is off the subject but I am absolutely outraged about the Florida woman who is now dying a slow death by starvation because her husband had her feeding tube removed!
My heart is completely breaking for her family who is now not even allowed to see her or even say goodbye because of the woman's husband.
It is appalling that someone is so greedy and purely evil. I hope God punishes him appropriately. I will definitely be keeping Terri and her family in my prayers.
You can go to www.terrisfight.org to read the whole story

LG
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 at 21:22:28 (EDT)
Should parents be charged for their teenangers crimes? If so why, and if No why not? If No then what do you think should be done to reduce the teenage crime rate?
Alicia Fischer
email: cchsrunner86@yahoo.com
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 at 14:02:18 (EDT)
hi there. I support the do not call list. for starters i don't like jumping up everytime the phone rings thinking it is my husband calling when it is only the telemarketers. I figure every time i jump up is minutes here and there that add up that i could be spending with my daughter. Also i used to be one in my niave days (i quit after a week) and alot of people that would show the slightest interest in any of the calls were the elderly people who didn't know any better, and they would get suckered in. Imagine your poor old grandmother taken for everything she had because of these people. this at least gives them or their family members a chance to make it stop.
catrina
email: swwidow@hotmail.com
Wednesday, October 15, 2003 at 02:08:22 (EDT)
What happened to my right to have a nice quiet evening at home without the phone, cable, and credit card companies calling or the local politician asking for votes?

I agree that they have a right to free speech. But I shouldn't be forced to listen to it, or be bothered by it. Let them say whatever they want, just don't call me.

If I want information, I'll call them. And then they can exercise their freedom of speech all they want.

Marla
email: marleenab@yahoo.com
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 17:42:12 (EDT)
My point of view is very simple; I feel it is a total invasion of privacy and crosses a line. I do have caller id, but it does not stop that phone from ringing. If that phone rings and it is not friend or family connecting to my private space then to me it is crossing over my boundary line. Imagine these people coming to your front door and ringing your doorbell instead. I think it needs to be stopped, if I am in need of services or product I will search them out myself.
Laura
email: lauracassano@comcast.net
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 12:05:13 (EDT)
Hi guys. First of all let me say that I support the dop not call list. Secondly, it does affect my job. I am a mortgage broker and I work from home and occasionally I will telemarket to people who have recently taken out a second mortgage or some other type of loan that I feel I could consolidate and save them money. I have also telemarketed to renters because not very many renters realize how easy it is to buy a house and if nothing else I made them aware they could buy a house. I also subscribe to a web site where people make inquiries about home loans and then the leads are forwarded to me. I am ALWAYS polite when I call, identifying myself right away and being very straight forward in why I am calling and of course taking no for an answer. Apparently the do not call list is not as easy as it sounds for business owners though. On 9/25 I received a memo from my corporate office which reads: "The federal gov't will begin enforcing the Do Not Call Registry October 1, 2003. The registry prohibits sellers, telemarketers, and other service providers from soliciting, by telephone or fax, any consumer registered on the list. Even consumers not registered on the list cannot be contacted unless certain complex procedures are established adn fees paid to ascribe to the registry, which S.F. Mortgage has determined not to pursue.
The only exeption to the rule is if a business relationship between SF and the customer has been established within the last 18 months, or within 3 months after a customer makes an enquiry about Source Financial services.
Consequently, after Ocotber 1, 2003, all telemarketing activities by or on behalf of Source must cease, except with respect to customers with whom SF has previosuly brokered or closed a loan withing the last 18 months, or 3 months after an enquiry about services has been made. However, even under the exception, a customer can request not to be called again at any time.
The regulations have established a penalty of $11,000 per violation so it is very important for everyone at SF mortgage to strictly comply with these regulations".
WOW. I don't even know if I can pursue the leads I have prepaid for from the website I subscribe to since they didn't contact the company I work for enquiring about info but contacted a web site about home loans and requested info there. I guess I will have to call up to corporate and find out.
Telemarketing doesn't play a huge roll in my business, I'd say only about 1/8 of my marketing. It is the cheapest tool I use, but since I personally hate telemarketers it is something I have always been resistent to doing much of and limit it to only people I think would truly be interested in hearing from me. Again, I SUPPORT THE DO NOT CALL LIST but I had no idea what a pain in the butt it would be to work with it until I got this memo.
Margarita
Tuesday, October 14, 2003 at 04:01:41 (EDT)
The only thing I have ever bought over the phone was my subscription to the Chicago Tribune. Other than that the 10,000 phone calls since then have been hung up on. Does anyone really buy anthing from these people anyway? Except me obviously? Just curious...
kerri
Monday, October 13, 2003 at 20:07:12 (EDT)
It is my understandin, correct me if I am wrong please, that most Telemarketers work on commission of what they sell over the phone. So, whoever is left that they can call, more than likely will buy something. They arent losing anything not having my number, because I will never buy anything from them.
Lyne
Monday, October 13, 2003 at 13:05:38 (EDT)
Heather:

I certainly do not buy into the fact that ALL of people would be losing their jobs. I am sure that 99% of the people who signed up for the "Do Not Call List" would never buy from those companies in the first place. Therefore, the revenue to pay the employees are most likely coming from individuals who WANT the service, and who most likely wouldn't be on the "Do Not Call List". While I never like to see people unemployed, these jobs are high turnover in the first place. My friend briefly worked at a telemarking company, and most people didn't last a week - including herself. At least we can have peice of mind that the Holiday Season is coming up and there will be a surplus of retail positions. Hopefully these telemarketers will take advantage of that until they can obtain gainful employment.
A Goodwin
Monday, October 13, 2003 at 11:21:05 (EDT)
There is nothing wrong with not wanting your number published for solicitors. It is my personal opinion that when people want to buy something they will seek it out. Soliciting by phone is probably not that successful for people who don't want to be bothered anyway, so why aggitate society. There is nothing unconstitutional about wanting privacy in your home and reserving your number. These days, we get enough soliciting by e-mail. No jobs are lost by not being able to telemarket phone numbers, there are millions of people online, and millions of jobs to promote products online, and far less obrusive in people's lives than the telephone.
Maryanne
Sunday, October 12, 2003 at 22:01:34 (EDT)
Heather you must be a telemarketer...what's your phone number?
SH
Saturday, October 11, 2003 at 11:11:36 (EDT)
Who really cares if these people lose their jobs? Why did they take that kind of a job in the first place? What are the qualifications of a telemarketer? Do people really buy the stuff they are selling? I really try to be polite to most anyone I talk to, whether it be in person or on the phone...but if someone is telling you they are not interested or not to call them anymore, then they damn well better stop doing it!
LH
Friday, October 10, 2003 at 21:05:57 (EDT)
LH--I saw that interview on the "Today" show. It was a scream! Most of the telemarketers were quite upset by the annoying phone calls they were receiving.=)
Also, Heather--sure I could ignore the phone ringing, turn off the ringer, or check my caller i.d. constantly--but why should I? It is MY phone, in MY house, and I should not have my evenings & weekends disrupted by telemarketers. ESPECIALLY when I ask for a supervisor, and request my name be taken off the company list, and they call anyway! Millions of good/decent people are unemployed right now--I won't be shedding any extra tears for unemployed telemarketers!
angela
Friday, October 10, 2003 at 13:46:54 (EDT)
MARGARITA-Thanks, and yes, it is definitely a relief. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't know that my little baby is in a better place. He/she may have not been around long here on earth, but he/she will live forever in Heaven.
SH
Friday, October 10, 2003 at 12:35:46 (EDT)
I think telemarketers are a pain ! I know they have a job to do, but if they could only take NO for an answer, I dont think I would mind them too much.

Once.. I had one phone me back, after about 10 minutes when I told her I had to be excused due to mother nature calling me. Now, I think THAT'S extreme!
Michel Mich
email: Greyhoundlover@comcast.net
pa USAThursday, October 09, 2003 at 21:15:10 (EDT)
Telemarketers are a pain in the butt. I am sorry, I know they have a job to do, but I think they are annoying.

If they could only take NO for a n answer, maybe they would not be so bad!


michele mich
email: greyhoundlover@comcast.net
Thursday, October 09, 2003 at 21:12:19 (EDT)
Hi gang! Hope I didn't shock ya'all too much! LOL!

I read an article today about a fella who posted the numbers of telemarketers in his article so that people could call them! It was a hilarious article about how the ATA (american teleservices association)was complaining because he gave them no warning he was going to do this, it was costing them time and money to answer the millions of calls they were getting and it was an inconveinience to them! HA! Hope THEY didn't get THEIR supper interupted..LOLOLOL!!!!

Anyways...here is the number if anyone would like to call and let them know how you feel (317-816-9336) and the website is (www.ataconnect.org/)...ENJOY!!!LOLOLOL!!!
LH
Thursday, October 09, 2003 at 20:41:49 (EDT)
SH ~ sorry to hear about the miscarriage. Isn't it wonderful knowing your baby is still well loved and being taken such wonderful care of (and in such good company?).

There are many times I get calls that say unavailable - I never know if it is telemarketer or my sister whose number shows as unavailable or what. I answer sometimes and sometimes I let the voice mail pick it up and see if I want to call back.
Yes, many people may be out of work with this new law - heavens knows it is affecting my job - but I still welcome it. There are always positions open for salespeople - which is essentially what telemarketing is - they would probably be welcome at any car dealership.
Margarita
Thursday, October 09, 2003 at 20:03:35 (EDT)
I don't know about it being unconsitutional, but I do believe that it will puta lot of people out of work and that is the last thing we need in this country. We have too many people out of work. On an average most people have caller ID so don't understand why they even pick up the phone. If it bothers them that they call then don't pick up the phone or just hang up. There is no need to put thousands of people out of work that is going to push people right into the unemployment office over something as stupid as someone getting an annoying phone call. Everyone is trying to make a pay check so I say just leave it alone.
Heather
email: HSalyers1@aol.com
Thursday, October 09, 2003 at 17:35:42 (EDT)
Oh my gosh ladies! Sorry to say but not only am I about to turn 41 in a couple months but had the ol' tubes tied in a nice little bow last year after the hubby and I decided we wanted to spice it up abit and "go natural" from now on! (blush)LOL!!!!

Thanks for the support anywayz...it would have done wonders for me about 9 years ago!!! TC!!!!
LH
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 18:47:49 (EDT)
Well, I never signed up for the list because I enter contests and sweepstakes. But I don't think the list is unconstitutional. Entering contests and sweeps kind of gives companies permission to call you at home-I just wish they'd call later in the morning and not so late at night. We have caller ID though, and don't usually pick up the phone if there's no number displayed.
So if you did sign up for the 'do not call' list, make sure that you do not enter contests or send for information through the mail or computer and sometimes even ordering something online--they have a little clause written in that states you give your permission to receive calls about their product.

trekmate
email: ncpcpam@mindspring.com
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 16:44:44 (EDT)
If I choose not to have solicitors calling my home then it is my choice. It is more unconstitutional to not give me the choice. If I want to receive the calls then fine I don't have to sign up. If I don't want the calls then by all means let me sign up! I hate being subjected to all those calls at ALL hours. They choose to call...fine. I choose not to accept them. If they deserve the right to make random calls, I deserve the right to refuse them.
Melody Glasscock
email: melodyglass@hotmail.com
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 16:17:35 (EDT)
Hey LH, sounds like you can do it! Were all cheering for you.
SH I am sorry to hear about your loss. You sound very positive about it all. I hope everything works out for you.
Lyne
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 16:10:45 (EDT)
Keep the Do-Not-Call list.

I know where to get the service if I need it.
Luz
email: lrivetz@yahoo.com
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 14:04:51 (EDT)
Hi LH!---now you put your "foot in it" so to speak. =) My stepson(hubbies from a previous marriage) turned 17 y/o on June 9. Our baby girl was born June 10. It REALLY is not too late hon!!!Wink! ;)Hee!Hee!
angela
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 13:24:48 (EDT)
LH-I have a half sister who is 19 1/2 years younger than me! It can be done!LOL!
If you consider that stats.. 1 in 3 PG's end in m/c. Most end b4 the woman knows she's PG, but some don't. To be honest, since I felt that the PG wasn't right, I kind of feel a sense of peace knowing that what was wrong is now fixed and I have a clean slate to start with. If I m/c again, I'm sure I'll take it harder than this one, but for now, I'm just looking at it as a stroke of bad luck. Thanks for your concerns :)
SH
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 12:03:36 (EDT)
The "Do-Not-Call" list is a no-brainer. When a telemarketing call comes into my house it's obviously an intrusion, and it's something I should be able to choose NOT to receive. I pay for telephone service so MY FAMILY can use it, and that's the ONLY reason. We're bombarded with enough advertising in our lives, it doesn't have to come directly into my house through the telephone! Enough is enough.
Ray
email: rjones@aol.com
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 11:12:10 (EDT)
Hey LH,
You still have time! My brother in law is 17 years younger than my husband and my aunt is 16 years younger than my mom! :) Wink wink!
Kerri
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 10:46:16 (EDT)
SH...WOW!, you are so brave! I had a miscarriage about 9 years ago and was so upset about the whole thing that I never tried again! My daughter was only 7 at the time, but somehow found out that mommy was going to have a baby...so I also had to help her deal with it too! She is 16 now and always talks about how she wishes she had a sister or a brother and I know she will be lonesome for a sibling someday when hubby and I are gone! I wish I would have been as strong willed as you and given it just one more try! TC and good luck!
LH
Wednesday, October 08, 2003 at 02:20:29 (EDT)
Hi Everyone,
Thank you so much for all of the kind words. We are dealing with the loss very well. Our faith in God allows us the comfort of knowing that our baby is being cared for much better than we ever could have. We are disappointed, yes, but not totally devastated. I wasn't suprised b/c my symptoms disappeared weeks ago, and I figured something was wrong. I guess I've had a while to get used to the idea that the PG didn't seem normal. The doc said it's ok to start TTC after my first cycle, so that's what we'll do and *hopefully* I'll be PG again by Christmas, and *hopefully* I'll be sick as a dog this time!!!
I'm really feeling well, just tired from the anesthetic last night. Emotionally, I'm ok, and I know it was just a stroke of bad luck.
Again, thank you all, and I guess I should give my opinion on the topic, since I'm here!

I'm in Canada, so we don't have any laws implemented. I despise Telemarketers, and I let them know it. I will be rude if I have to, and I will hang up on most of them because they won't shut up. I understand that they are doing their job (and get paid $10/hr to do so), but it's truly useless to call me b/c I would NEVER buy from a company that is so inconsiderate, if I can help it. There should be laws protecting our rights, the last time I checked, my phone wasn't government issued, and I had to purchase it myself. I also have to pay for my phone line, so I should have the control over who can or can not call me.
SH
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 22:29:40 (EDT)
I cannot stand telemarketers! We get phone calls all day long. On our caller ID 9 out of 10 numbers are "unavailable". It has gotten to the point where we don't answer the phone anymore but they still leave messages on our voice mail. The bad thing is now they aren't even people calling, it's just a recording. Plus the phone calls start at 8 A.M. and last all day and night...not nice since we have a baby trying to sleep. I say telemarketing should be ruled unconstitutional! If i need something I know where to find it. Why don't these people get a real job? Must be fun for them to make money by harrassing people.AHHH.
I think i am done now, sorry.
B.M.M.
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 20:19:14 (EDT)
I LOVE the Do Not Call List! Since the beginning of the month, our house has not had any unnecessary ringing of the phone! It has been wonderful. To say it is "unconstitutional" is ludicrous. That politician was definitely paid off!

To SH. I was EXACTLY where you are 2 years ago. I went in for my "normal" 12 week OB visit only to find out there was no heartbeat by U/S. I was devestated! We were told to wait for the "miscarriage" to happen naturally, which never seemed to happen, so 2 weeks later I had a D & C to finally end the ordeal. We waited 2 months and got pregnant again without any difficulty. Now we have a beautiful 23 month old to prove it. Give it time and definitely mourn your loss. Talking to others who went through it definitely helped. It is hard no matter how far along you are. God Bless and know that you are in my thoughts...
Kerri
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 18:37:01 (EDT)
KEEP THE NO CALL LIST!
I KNOW WHERE TO GET GOODS AND SERVICES IF I NEED THEM!
MM
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 17:49:01 (EDT)
To SH...so sorry to hear about your loss and hope you are coping well and just wanted to wish you a speedy recovery so you can get healthy and begin trying again! Take care and God bless!!
LH
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 16:21:05 (EDT)
I think it's a great idea, my household is signed on it and belive me it has been very quite here in the past few days.
Juile Gore
email: hyppi_julz@hotmail.com
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 14:27:07 (EDT)
SH - Words cannot tell you how sorry I am. I wish I was there to give you a big hug. I can only imagine how you are feeling, and if you need someone to talk to, definitely email me. I hope you and your family are holding up all right. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
A Goodwin
email: agoodwin@hotmail.com
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 13:58:32 (EDT)
To me, the answer to this question is simple. Sure, telemarketers have the right to free speech. But consumers also have the right to say they don't want to listen to telemarketers. The Do Not Call List gives people freedom of choice.
Becky
email: writingal@hotmail.com
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 12:10:04 (EDT)
My home is private property. I have every right to censor what come in to it. That includes unwanted phone calls.
Leah Brimhall
email: werbrimhall@msn.com
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 10:54:27 (EDT)
A GOODWIN-Enjoy the m/s while you can. I had a suspicion that since I no longer had PG symptoms that something was up, and I miscarried the baby yesterday. I went to ER and tests confirmed that the baby had stopped growing at 6 wks gestation, and the baby has been dead for about 4 wks. I had a D&C, but we'll be trying again asap. I really wish you well, and like I say, enjoy those symptoms, they tell you everything is A-OK.
SH
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 10:22:07 (EDT)
I don't believe it's unconstitutional if the citizens of this country are the ones who want it and are signing up for it. But if a service like this is offered, there has to be some sort of repercussions for a business that doesn't take a person's number off their list. Otherwise, what is the purpose of having this kind of service available? I don't even have a home telephone anymore because most of the phone calls I got were from telemarketers. I stick to my cell phone, but since I list that as my home telephone number, I've started getting telemarketing calls on it. I don't pay for cell phone minutes just to listen to somebody try to sell me something.
Kerry S.
email: tejanita1@yahoo.com
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 09:29:30 (EDT)
i have no problem if telemarketers call me, that is if they are going to pay for my bill every month. well, i doubt that will happen. if a stranger can't walk into my house that i pay for, why can a sales man call my house at all hours? i pay for a phone service for my family, not for a sales person to call with "a deal". i have had the same telemarketing group call 5 times in one day, each time i told them not to call, they don't care. for that reason i would never buy anything from them, even if i like the product, i would go to another company. this whole situation with invading my private family time just irritates me beyond my boiling point! that judge is crazy and should be taken off the bench immediately.
lindsay
email: normandy@bellsouth.net
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 08:22:23 (EDT)
I think everyone pretty much summed it up by saying that these people are calling into our private homes, and that is wrong. If we choose for us not to have unwanted/warrented calls into our private homes, that should be respected. Where I work, I get Telemarketing calls off and on all day long, it can get irritating, but they are calling a business, not a private home number. I also called my phone company a few months ago and had a service installed where they have to hold, say there name, and company name and provide a phone #, and almost always they hang up. I do still get calls, and it would be nice if I can cancel my service, as they charge us so much a month, but its worth it to not have the phone ringing even after 9:00 PM! It has gotton out of hand, and its about time they came up with something like the Do Not Call List!
Lyne
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 08:14:22 (EDT)
These bleeding heart judges just seem to be "concerned" with the money hungry telemarketers' civil rights. What about our constitutional right to privacy? what happened to our being able to pick and choose who we want to associate with and have contact with? The cry goes up to the telemarketers who'll be out of work. Theycan find work elsewhere in sales. They would just be more productive than aggravating those of us who chose to be on this list.
kelli
email: nascar1515@comcast.net
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 07:21:47 (EDT)
I can't understand why this judge would rule this way other than as others have said that it was a payoff...or he could just be a really big a**hole and wants to see how long this will play through and he can be in the medias limelight!

Personally though, I don't think telemarkerers should be able to call our private phone numbers! I have always had an unlisted number and do so because I don't want to be bothered by unwanted calls! I must admit though that I don't get as many telemarketing calls as I used to...they've dropped off alot in the last 5 years or so...and even more in the last couple months! I've always wanted to tell one of them off real good, but then the better side of me takes over (LOL!) and I'm usually quite polite! I just refuse to let them tell me why I should be interested...I say "NothanksI'm not interestedbutyouhaveagooddaybye!" real fast and hang up! That is how I deal with telemarketers...and really...has anyone actually ever bought anything from a telemarketer????
LH
Tuesday, October 07, 2003 at 01:15:56 (EDT)
I am TOTALLY DISGUSTED with telemarketers!! I was getting phone calls all day long!! I finally called my phone company, and told them to add a special feature to my line. When anyone calls me, you get a message saying that if you are a soliciter, you must allow your telephone number to appear on my caller id or the phone call will not go through! Of course--telemarketers do not want you to have 'their' phone number, so when they call and get the message, they hang up! I have not had a phone soliciter in a long, long time! My phone hardly ever rings anymore! I love it!! I do not think it is unconstitutional to be able to have the 'do not call' list! My phone number is unlisted! I only give it out to people who I wish to have my phone number! How the telemarketers have gotten my number is beyond me! I agree with others here--let those politicians have the telemarketers call THEM at dinner-time, on Saturday when you are trying to get things done around the house etc! I have had ENOUGH of it already!! I say let the 'do not call' list go into effect!! We have the right to NOT be bothered by these companies! If I want to buy something, I call the company--If I don't call your company, I most likely am NOT interested in your product(s)!!
C.W.
Monday, October 06, 2003 at 13:35:50 (EDT)
When a telemarketer calls MY home, they are coming into MY. I should have the right to say who comes into MY home. I am all for the do-not-call list.

Pam
Pam
Monday, October 06, 2003 at 12:06:59 (EDT)
I definitely think someone is getting a payoff here. Again, as I stated last week, one of the judges who ruled that the "Do Not Call List" was unconstitutional, had actually signed up for it. I think that is halarious. I also think that its pretty funny how the telemarketers keep telling us that if we dont want us to call them, to tell them and they'll take us off their list. Like, duh, isn't that what I'm asking them to do??? I definitely think this is a breach of my RIGHT TO PRIVACY!!! I bought my phone, I bought the service to my phone, I pay the bill when it comes in, therefore, I should have a say in who shouldn't be calling my home. I will NEVER buy a single item from a telemarketer, and that is basically what I'm saying to them. Then why bother me? Why upset me so that when they call I have to resort to being rude just so they leave me alone? Why do I have to suffer just because some jerk wants me to buy Direct TV??? Freedom of speech goes as far as the door to my home. Any further, and now you've invaded my privacy.
A Goodwin
Monday, October 06, 2003 at 09:45:40 (EDT)
I think the thin, high altitude Colorado air has gotten to that federal judge, or else he's on crack. Don't these people phone his house too and bug the crap out of him, or doesn't he have a phone? Darn straight this should be implemented, as long as it can be done relatively cheaply. Maybe we should all start calling the telemarketers and harassing them and wasting their time, interrupting their attempts at selling junk to other people. I wonder how they would enjoy that? The stupid telemarketing companies were crying foul over freedom of speech and how this law would affect them. What about our freedom of speech, and the right to being left alone if we so desire?
BTW I think Colorado is a beautiful state. Wouldn't want anyone to take my opening sentence the wrong way.
Philbert Flange
Sunday, October 05, 2003 at 01:26:45 (EDT)
I think the "do not call list" is the best thing to finally happen here in the US. I am so sick and tired of my phone ringing up to 10 times a day only to find out that it is someone attempting to sell me garbage. My phone line, like my residence is PRIVATE. I have a sign on my door for NO Solicitation, why not have one for my phone? All I can guess is, the judge who thinks it is "unconstitutional" was given some sort of payoff. Everything in politics is about money...not what is "Right". Do NOT CALL MY HOME now that Oct. 1st finally has come! Thank you.
viewer
Saturday, October 04, 2003 at 15:13:27 (EDT)
I'm having a hard time with the ruling that the "do not call list" is unconstituional. Telemarketers are calling private residence to solicit their business, be it charity or whatever. As a potential customer, donator, etc, I have the right to say whether I want these people soliciting me via telephone, in the future. Why should I have to tell them do not call my house again. And what's so disturbing about telemarketers (not all telemarketers) is that they call during the busiest times: dinner, nap time, etc. Just my opinion.
Shawanda
Saturday, October 04, 2003 at 14:13:48 (EDT)
Hmm this is a interesting question.... I think we have discussed it a bit already. I am not positive why the Supreme Court is saying it is unconstitutional - I have been so busy the last 2 weeks I haven't paid close attention to the news. I am guessing it has something to do with freedom of speech. If that is the case, I don't think it really applies because our phone numbers are to our private homes and while companies and telemarketers have the right to say whay they are saying, that doesn't give them the right to call a private number and start giving us a sales speil and not taking no for an answer. I told this one salesperson no several times and when he kept asking me why I wasn't intrerested and trying to sell me I finally told him "I am going to end our conversation now because you are not listening to me".
I'm sorry, but that has nothign to do with freedom of speech and a whole lot to do with lining someone's pockets.
Margarita
Saturday, October 04, 2003 at 00:40:54 (EDT)